New Attendance program

[orioleman]

So what's the current sick/absentee policy in the CBA? Oh, there is none, but a clause which allows Management to determine one at a later date? Sounds like this section was reviewed by the same IAM "expert legal advisors" which permitted suspect CIC language a few years ago, and we know how that went. It is a done deal and consider yourself fortunate that it is not nearly as restrictive or onerous as what the mechanics work under.

The arbitrator might toss Fleet Service a bone and reject points earned months ago, but that's about all we are getting.

So Forsooth Jester.

jester glad to see your an arbitrator now . guess you can kiss that smelly bag room couch good bye.

as far as the contract. You are correct about the attendance policy being absent . However there are other

areas of the contract the company violated with this new policy . I'm not going to tip the company off here

by explaining it to you or quoting what part of the contract they violated. cause it would fall on deaf ears

anyway.

 

[Jester]

jester glad to see your an arbitrator now . guess you can kiss that smelly bag room couch good bye.

as far as the contract. You are correct about the attendance policy being absent . However there are other areas of the contract the company violated with this new policy . I'm not going to tip the company off here by explaining it to you or quoting what part of the contract they violated. cause it would fall on deaf ears

anyway.

Scoreboard... who was right about Change In Control? The sad thing about CIC was how quickly and tersely it was dismissed in a rather brief ruling. No need to address all issues, just one and that was more than enough.

Now once again, our cadre of bedroll attorneys doubling as ramp agents will opine while blindly ignoring the Tempe boys due diligence in advance of announcing new policies. By your own admission "the attendance policy being absent," but you forgot to include the CBA gave discretion to Management to set a policy. As I said, the arbitrator might throw us a bone on ex post facto penalizing for a policy which was not in place.

How much will this folly cost us in membership dues to grieve it? I am sure for the Nihilist Direction team of insiders they have a lengthy list favorite sons and pet projects to spend upon like drunken Republicans.

So Computes Jester.

 

[bagchucker]

It really is a shame to see how things have morphed over the years. When I was a new hire, it was embedded into you right off the bat that you don't call in sick or come late until your probation is up. You didn't dare no-show...that meant your job! Look at what has happened... somewhere management got lax on the entire attendance thing. Moreover, 2 items stand out in my mind. The "preferential" policy and the hiring practices.

There are some co-workers who, by anyones standards, have "patterns" of attendance issues, yet management sweeps those under the rug and it isn't an issue. Secondly, the hiring of people that really don't belong anywhere near multi-million dollar aircraft for $8.50 an hour is an issue. These folks don't care if they skip work, show up late, no show on a trade. YET, it has been tolerated by management! WHY... because we need bodies to fill the holes, and if you fire these folks the replacement worker is only as good as the one you just fired! Hence, the management standpoint of being lax on the attendance issue over the last 5-8 years.

It has gotten out of control and OUR NEW ATTENDANCE POLICY is the result of years of mangement's failure and ineptness! I think a point system is a vaild one to gauge attendance, because it puts everyone on an equal playing field, thus avoiding the "preferential" policy. However, the system being put into use by our company is WAY TOO punitive and restrictive! This just invites the ILL co-worker to work to get everyone else sick, so they can avoid the point.

Hopefully, the chatter lately that there will be some changes to this policy are true. We don't need a Nazi-attendance policy shoved down our throat.

 

[orioleman]

Hey jester didn't know we were keeping score. but if it makes you feel like a man to have one up on me go for it. I'm not rehashing the CIC . only

to say it was poorly presented which would make since after all Randy C. was willing to give it away for nothing so how would it have looked if he really

tried to fight for it. OOH well let bygones be bygones. As far as your reference to the New Direction . If you had a set you would introduce yourself

to them when there walking the break rooms. But as with freedom you'll just wait till they leave and #### about them behind there back. Boy that's

manly. but away congrats again on you new roll as an arbitrator

 

[Hadenough]

I'm beginning to wonder if Freedom and Jester are one in the same.




So Theorizes Hadenough

 

[Old PSA]

The new attendance policy hasn't really changed. It has just been dressed up a little bit. 4 points instead of 3 for a couseling but 5 point is still a level 1 and 2 points in 12 months is level 2 and then 2 points in 12 months from that point is level 3 and 2 point in 12 months from that point is out the door.

So they took the words "no fault" out, they didn't change the way it works. You still receive the points for being late or missing regardless of the reason and the points count. The only thing that was clairifed is that the regional director will make the decision about discipline. So someone in Tempe is going to decide if it snowed enough for you not to be disciplined this time but the point still count to next time.

If they fire enough people, they won't be able to keep the station operating and who gets blamed, not the people in Tempe who made the policy, the local managers are blamed. Tempe is patting themselves on the back saying how aggresive they are in addressing the attendance problem. It just those managers in the field that can't do their jobs. Why $8.72 is a princely sum and they should have no trouble finding and keeping good people.

 

[orioleman]

Had,
No I got give the jester more credit than that. he seems a little more educated . not just using

big words that he doesn't understand like the freedom fighter.

 

[Hadenough]

Had,
No I got give the jester more credit than that. he seems a little more educated . not just using

big words that he doesn't understand like the freedom fighter.

O you do have a valid point. It was just a theory and open to be proven right or wrong. My apologies Jester.




So Restates Hadenough

 

[orioleman]

boys and girls,
perv's posting better get a beer or two to three

 

[Doc]

The new attendance policy hasn't really changed. It has just been dressed up a little bit. 4 points instead of 3 for a couseling but 5 point is still a level 1 and 2 points in 12 months is level 2 and then 2 points in 12 months from that point is level 3 and 2 point in 12 months from that point is out the door.

So they took the words "no fault" out, they didn't change the way it works. You still receive the points for being late or missing regardless of the reason and the points count. The only thing that was clairifed is that the regional director will make the decision about discipline. So someone in Tempe is going to decide if it snowed enough for you not to be disciplined this time but the point still count to next time.

If they fire enough people, they won't be able to keep the station operating and who gets blamed, not the people in Tempe who made the policy, the local managers are blamed. Tempe is patting themselves on the back saying how aggresive they are in addressing the attendance problem. It just those managers in the field that can't do their jobs. Why $8.72 is a princely sum and they should have no trouble finding and keeping good people.

I think you should read the whole agreement.

 

[perserverance]

My take on this policy after alittle thought is that
AH and AC put this together to test the ND team and
to basically throw a punch at us for oustin' Canale.
Canale was thier boy, like it or not. They had alot
of leadway with Randy and used it to implode (from
within) our union. Randy was but an extension of
thier agendas. We need Rich and others to step up
and toss this policy back at them. Grieve it, rip it
up. Do what needs to be done.
On another note does anyone know what will happen
to the seat on the UA board ? My understanding is
Rich does not want it but who gets to hold it ?

 

[orioleman]

perv,
very good theory . You may have hit the nail on the head.
as far as Rich and his delegates . they are moving forward with going to arbitration
and the grievances will be to start flying . So to all the Grievance Committees out there
sharpen your pencils and start doing YOUR jobs that YOU were elected to do.

sidenote: perv make sure the PHL membership holds your Grievance Committee accountable with this

NO SIDE DEALS with MANAGEMENT like GS likes to do.

 

[The Man]

How is this possible?

 

[The Man]

Our fearless leader Velvet said it was non-negotiable. What's up with that big V ?

 

[Jester]

I'm beginning to wonder if Freedom and Jester are one in the same.

So Theorizes Hadenough

Nah, to the degree I lack in Freedom's verbosity and loquacious style, I excel in vexing and dissecting. We are two very different people. Besides there is only room for one on the bag room couch while asleep, and I bid for that line.

So Instills Jester.