Voter ID fraud is a sub set of voter fraud. If a ballot was stollen (I assjme we are talking about a absentee ballot?) the voter ID law would not affect that as its done by mail.eolesen said:
I am so proud of you for destroying the myth of the White Southern Male master race.
Ms Tree said:
You obviously don't know what you're talking about.
So I guess you don't have a source. As usual, manufactured data to support your straw man argument.
Nice, but likewise, there is no evidence that voter photo id requirements have disenfranchised anyone, just speculation.image.jpg
You are more likely to see a UFO (unless you are a CT GUY) than to have voter fraud actually happen in your election.
New database of US voter fraud finds no evidence that photo ID laws are needed
Saturday Aug 11, 2012 5:59 PM
First of a series of articles, Who Can Vote: a News21 investigation of voting rights in America
By Natasha Khan and Corbin Carson, News21
A new nationwide analysis of 2,068 alleged election-fraud cases since 2000 shows that while fraud has occurred, the rate is infinitesimal, and in-person voter impersonation on Election Day, which prompted 37 state legislatures to enact or consider tough voter ID laws, is virtually non-existent.
In an exhaustive public records search, reporters from the investigative reporting projecdt News21 sent thousands of requests to elections officers in all 50 states, asking for every case of fraudulent activity including registration fraud, absentee ballot fraud, vote buying, false election counts, campaign fraud, casting an ineligible vote, voting twice, voter impersonation fraud and intimidation.
"]http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/11/13236464-new-database-of-us-voter-fraud-finds-no-evidence-that-photo-id-laws-are-needed?lite"]
Analysis of the resulting comprehensive News21 election fraud database turned up 10 cases of voter impersonation. With 146 million registered voters in the United States during that time, those 10 cases represent one out of about every 15 million prospective voters.
"His spokesman said Turzai meant that Pennsylvanias election would be fair and free of fraud because of the new ID law. Democrats, however, said Turzai meant the law, signed in March, would suppress Democratic votes.
According to Pennsylvanias Department of State and the Department of Transportation, as many as 758,000 people, about 9 percent of the states 8.2 million registered voters currently dont have the identification that now will be required at the polling place.
Even if 90 percent of those voters got the correct identification by Nov. 6, that still could leave 75,800 voters disenfranchised.
The U.S. Justice Department is investigating whether the ID law violates the 1965 federal Voting Rights Act by discriminating against minorities, according to a July 23 letter to Pennsylvania Secretary of State Carol Aichele.
A coalition of civil-rights groups led by the American Civil Liberties Union has sued Pennsylvania in state court, arguing the voter ID law would deprive citizens of their right to vote. The trial began July 25.
In a pretrial document released by the ACLU, the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, represented by the state Attorney Generals Office, could not identify any cases of voter impersonation at the polls.
The state said it would offer no evidence that in-person voter fraud has in fact occurred in Pennsylvania or elsewhere or that in-person voter fraud is likely to occur in November 2012 in the absence of a photo ID law.
Pennsylvania officials, who responded to the News21 public record requests, also reported no cases of Election Day voter-impersonation fraud since 2000."
Im on my cell and xont feel like trying to cut and paste. I tild you the seach parameters. If you want a nurse maid to spoon feed it to you go call your mother. That is not my job. Ignoring the facts does not mean they dont exist.Knotbuyinit said:
I think those numbers came off the republican lawyers association study. They sound very familiar.Glenn Quagmire said:image.jpg
You are more likely to see a UFO (unless you are a CT GUY) than to have voter fraud actually happen in your election.
New database of US voter fraud finds no evidence that photo ID laws are needed
Saturday Aug 11, 2012 5:59 PM
First of a series of articles, Who Can Vote: a News21 investigation of voting rights in America
By Natasha Khan and Corbin Carson, News21
A new nationwide analysis of 2,068 alleged election-fraud cases since 2000 shows that while fraud has occurred, the rate is infinitesimal, and in-person voter impersonation on Election Day, which prompted 37 state legislatures to enact or consider tough voter ID laws, is virtually non-existent.
In an exhaustive public records search, reporters from the investigative reporting projecdt News21 sent thousands of requests to elections officers in all 50 states, asking for every case of fraudulent activity including registration fraud, absentee ballot fraud, vote buying, false election counts, campaign fraud, casting an ineligible vote, voting twice, voter impersonation fraud and intimidation.
http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/11/13236464-new-database-of-us-voter-fraud-finds-no-evidence-that-photo-id-laws-are-needed?lite"%5D"%5D]http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/11/13236464-new-database-of-us-voter-fraud-finds-no-evidence-that-photo-id-laws-are-needed?lite"][/url]
Analysis of the resulting comprehensive News21 election fraud database turned up 10 cases of voter impersonation. With 146 million registered voters in the United States during that time, those 10 cases represent one out of about every 15 million prospective voters.
"His spokesman said Turzai meant that Pennsylvanias election would be fair and free of fraud because of the new ID law. Democrats, however, said Turzai meant the law, signed in March, would suppress Democratic votes.
According to Pennsylvanias Department of State and the Department of Transportation, as many as 758,000 people, about 9 percent of the states 8.2 million registered voters currently dont have the identification that now will be required at the polling place.
Even if 90 percent of those voters got the correct identification by Nov. 6, that still could leave 75,800 voters disenfranchised.
The U.S. Justice Department is investigating whether the ID law violates the 1965 federal Voting Rights Act by discriminating against minorities, according to a July 23 letter to Pennsylvania Secretary of State Carol Aichele.
A coalition of civil-rights groups led by the American Civil Liberties Union has sued Pennsylvania in state court, arguing the voter ID law would deprive citizens of their right to vote. The trial began July 25.
In a pretrial document released by the ACLU, the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, represented by the state Attorney Generals Office, could not identify any cases of voter impersonation at the polls.
The state said it would offer no evidence that in-person voter fraud has in fact occurred in Pennsylvania or elsewhere or that in-person voter fraud is likely to occur in November 2012 in the absence of a photo ID law.
Pennsylvania officials, who responded to the News21 public record requests, also reported no cases of Election Day voter-impersonation fraud since 2000."
Missouri State House is Republican by a 3 to 1 majority. Their ID law was struck down and will be on the ballot again this year. Montana ID bill was struck down. Virginia Gov McDonnell was a republican last I checked. Their House also has a republican majority.Knotbuyinit said:
