USA320Pilot
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700UW:
Are you on drugs or have you been on the moon?
Chip
Are you on drugs or have you been on the moon?
Chip
Mesa To Buy Us Airways
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Light Years
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robbed- sadly, Mesa Air Group is not small. In fact, I believe they may have more aircraft than U does (albeit regional ones).
Even this post as a joke makes me feel ill.
Even this post as a joke makes me feel ill.
USA320Pilot
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700UW:
Is this your first user name and do you suffer from Alzheimer’s disease?
Regards,
Chip
Is this your first user name and do you suffer from Alzheimer’s disease?
Regards,
Chip
USA320Pilot
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700UW:
When I have made a mistake I have publicly admitted it. By the way, what do you know about being a Captain on an A320?
Regardless, Siegel told management employees today that he strongly believes corporate transactions will occur. Who do you think will be US Airways' suitor? Delta? Aeroflot? BWIA? Spirit?
I have asked you a number of questions, could you please respond?
Regards,
Chip
When I have made a mistake I have publicly admitted it. By the way, what do you know about being a Captain on an A320?
Regardless, Siegel told management employees today that he strongly believes corporate transactions will occur. Who do you think will be US Airways' suitor? Delta? Aeroflot? BWIA? Spirit?
I have asked you a number of questions, could you please respond?
Regards,
Chip
USA320Pilot
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700UW:
Where are you? Would you please answer all of my questions. I am still waiting...
Regards,
Chip
Where are you? Would you please answer all of my questions. I am still waiting...
Regards,
Chip
Why would anybody want a corporate combination during these trying times? Why not wait for carriers to fail, and then snatch up assets at bargain sale prices. Why is Siegle the only one talking about industry consolidation? Is because he has his a$$ in a crack after robbing the U employees, and now sees a merger as his only way out.
Chip, before you start with you standard stuff, I have personally heard UAL upper management say that they want no part of a merger with U. This is not an insult to U workers, it's just that our leadership feels that we will be successful on our own. Now feel free to print the statement from the mid-level UAL guy that said a couple of months ago that industry consolidation is inevitable.
Chip, before you start with you standard stuff, I have personally heard UAL upper management say that they want no part of a merger with U. This is not an insult to U workers, it's just that our leadership feels that we will be successful on our own. Now feel free to print the statement from the mid-level UAL guy that said a couple of months ago that industry consolidation is inevitable.
ClueByFour
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Chip, how is the new pension treating you? The one that Dave said he would not come after?Chip Munn said:
How is the court case going for the IAM? You know, the one about outsourcing airbus work, that a US VP came on to this very forum and said would not happen.
If you believe that little Dave has any idea and/or control over what might happen in the industry, I've got a prime piece of water spanning real estate to sell you.
At this point, based on what analysts are saying about CCY's "long term" plan (if you can call it that), the depression of U's stock price, and the fact that UA just got real banks (not pump and dump artists like Bronner) to lend 'em $2 billion, the odds of US acquiring UA (or any desireable form thereof) are akin to getting struck by lightning. Underground. Inside a lead bunker.
You do realize that U's market cap is roughly 1/6th of UA's loan size? $150 million or so less than Bronner put in originally? Do you honestly think he's up for spending more? The fact that he even put out a press release after what ALPA released is a telling sign--if there was any kind of confidence from the Street or the employees it would not have been needed.
Cluebyfour,
nice post. This me me me stuff from chip is getting real old.
The real issue here is Usair and not United. Just like Alpa release stated today, if Usair had taken real advantage of the Ch11 process and not come out so fast then Usair would not be in this condition. (PIT is a prime example) Chip keeps mentioning United and all the hurdles that are still left. Well, that is exactly why United is still in Ch11, to make sure all the issues are resolved. And sure enough they are being resolved one by one. The contracts, the IAM/Amfa, the Denver gates, the majority of the fleet, the DIP hurdles, Exit financing commitments, etc
The same can not be said about Uair. Usair is now headed towards either Ch22 or major restructuring which is unlikely with the current management team.
And BTW, for the record, I have read numerious postings by Chip that cast real doubt on United emerging. Either way chip is trying to hedge his statements both ways which gives very little credibility to the rest of his postings.
Chip said "Once all of these major issue are favorably resolved, then a deal could proceed, unless of course, United does not emerge from Chapter 11."
nice post. This me me me stuff from chip is getting real old.
The real issue here is Usair and not United. Just like Alpa release stated today, if Usair had taken real advantage of the Ch11 process and not come out so fast then Usair would not be in this condition. (PIT is a prime example) Chip keeps mentioning United and all the hurdles that are still left. Well, that is exactly why United is still in Ch11, to make sure all the issues are resolved. And sure enough they are being resolved one by one. The contracts, the IAM/Amfa, the Denver gates, the majority of the fleet, the DIP hurdles, Exit financing commitments, etc
The same can not be said about Uair. Usair is now headed towards either Ch22 or major restructuring which is unlikely with the current management team.
And BTW, for the record, I have read numerious postings by Chip that cast real doubt on United emerging. Either way chip is trying to hedge his statements both ways which gives very little credibility to the rest of his postings.
Chip said "Once all of these major issue are favorably resolved, then a deal could proceed, unless of course, United does not emerge from Chapter 11."
usfliboi
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Im wondering why the same ole people continue to respond to CHips forums.. You dont have anything intelligent to say other than to knock Chip? Its amazing how man people laugh at these boards simply because its 75% rebuking Chip. Use your head guys say something worth while instead of shooting someone down who obviously cares enough to think for himself!!!!!
767jetz
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Don't tempt me man!700UW said:
700UW,
Don't worry, we all know how often Chip has stated as fact or implied that UA will not emerge. He's slowly altering his BS to make himself appear knowledgable. What he doesn't realize is that it's not working.
The one that comes to my mind most recently is his countless claims of "UA's inability to obtain exit financing."
Now that that theory is blown out of the water, he's conveniently avoiding that one.
We all know Chip NEVER admits (publicly or privately) when he is wrong. Which is 90% of the time.
Oh, and if he asks you to answr his questions, just tell him that you were busy taking care of you kids, and enjoying a sporting event, and handing out gifts at the local homeless shelter, and since you are such a busy do-gooder you simply don't have time to read every single post. That's the convenient excuse he always uses to avoid accountability.
airlineorphan
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Robbedagain asked:
There is precedent: Texas Air International (aka Tree Top Air), under the gentle guidance of Frank Lorenzo, cobbled together quite an empire using leveraged buyouts and a lot of slight of hand. Mesa has more resources that Lorenzo had when he started his empire.
Who knows?
-Airlineorphan
There is precedent: Texas Air International (aka Tree Top Air), under the gentle guidance of Frank Lorenzo, cobbled together quite an empire using leveraged buyouts and a lot of slight of hand. Mesa has more resources that Lorenzo had when he started his empire.
Who knows?
-Airlineorphan
