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On 1/17/2003 9:03:10 PM Bob Owens wrote:
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On 1/16/2003 6:08:38 PM Buck wrote:
Ok that is fair enough. Why has the TWU not used this right to strike in the past? Why Article 33 of the TWU/AA agreement?
ARTICLE 33 – NO STRIKE – NO LOCKOUT
(a) It is the intent of the parties to this Agreement that the procedures set forth in this Agreement will serve as a means of amicable settlement of all disputes that may arise between them, and, therefore:
(1) The Company will neither cause nor permit a lockout during the life of this Agreement; and
(2) Neither the Union nor the employees will engage in a strike, sitdown, walkout,
stoppage, slowdown, or curtailment of work for any reason during the life of this Agreement.
Off Topic: Where did you get your numbers about gun ownership?
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Having a little trouble following the conversation? Why would we go on strike when the agreement has been ratified?
"The reason why we have not used this right is because prior to getting to the point of striking the majority of those who voted on the company's "last best offer" considered the offer acceptable and voted the agreement in."
From the NRA website;
"How many gun owners are there?
While no absolute count is available, it is closely estimated that there are 60-65 million gun owners, 30-35 million of whom own handguns. According to survey research, at least 45% of American households own firearms."
A little bit of fuzzy math there, 65 million is around 23% of 280 million. Of course this is a political lobby so they inflate the numbers in thier favor like most political lobbies, regardless of the positions they represent. The NRA has around 4.5 million members or less than 2% of the population.
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No Bob, I am not having trouble following the conversation. Not any more trouble than you are having getting your message across at UAL.
As for the strike issue, I am speaking in general. You know that there have been times when the strike option has been put forth. I know that you only represent the Local 562 membership and that is where your main interests lie. Here in your beloved TUL, Local 514 produced "Will Strike If Provoked" T-shirts prior to ratification. Of Course the mechanics agreement at NWA had no bearing on the ratification as well as the act of terrorism. How did Burchette put? "It is called Leap Frogging Brother" .
So now that you have deviated from the topic, I would appreciate if you could provide some leadership on this S-1327 issue. What is it that needs to be done to defeat this bill? Maybe we should form a "Single Carrier Coalition" with American Eagle? Then we could have 75,306 voices speaking as one. Maybe then Sen. McCain would listen?
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On 1/17/2003 9:03:10 PM Bob Owens wrote:
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On 1/16/2003 6:08:38 PM Buck wrote:
Ok that is fair enough. Why has the TWU not used this right to strike in the past? Why Article 33 of the TWU/AA agreement?
ARTICLE 33 – NO STRIKE – NO LOCKOUT
(a) It is the intent of the parties to this Agreement that the procedures set forth in this Agreement will serve as a means of amicable settlement of all disputes that may arise between them, and, therefore:
(1) The Company will neither cause nor permit a lockout during the life of this Agreement; and
(2) Neither the Union nor the employees will engage in a strike, sitdown, walkout,
stoppage, slowdown, or curtailment of work for any reason during the life of this Agreement.
Off Topic: Where did you get your numbers about gun ownership?
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Having a little trouble following the conversation? Why would we go on strike when the agreement has been ratified?
"The reason why we have not used this right is because prior to getting to the point of striking the majority of those who voted on the company's "last best offer" considered the offer acceptable and voted the agreement in."
From the NRA website;
"How many gun owners are there?
While no absolute count is available, it is closely estimated that there are 60-65 million gun owners, 30-35 million of whom own handguns. According to survey research, at least 45% of American households own firearms."
A little bit of fuzzy math there, 65 million is around 23% of 280 million. Of course this is a political lobby so they inflate the numbers in thier favor like most political lobbies, regardless of the positions they represent. The NRA has around 4.5 million members or less than 2% of the population.
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No Bob, I am not having trouble following the conversation. Not any more trouble than you are having getting your message across at UAL.
As for the strike issue, I am speaking in general. You know that there have been times when the strike option has been put forth. I know that you only represent the Local 562 membership and that is where your main interests lie. Here in your beloved TUL, Local 514 produced "Will Strike If Provoked" T-shirts prior to ratification. Of Course the mechanics agreement at NWA had no bearing on the ratification as well as the act of terrorism. How did Burchette put? "It is called Leap Frogging Brother" .
So now that you have deviated from the topic, I would appreciate if you could provide some leadership on this S-1327 issue. What is it that needs to be done to defeat this bill? Maybe we should form a "Single Carrier Coalition" with American Eagle? Then we could have 75,306 voices speaking as one. Maybe then Sen. McCain would listen?
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