Man Pretends to Be Air Marshal in Bid to Make AA Flight

While the story is a valuable in it's highlighting the need to remain vigilant, I think a little too much information is being discussed regarding security procedures.

For example, the internet now knows that if you want information on the location of an armed passenger, please go see the FA who is alone in one of the galleys. See the problem?

There's nothing in this thread that isn't known to passengers who board early and sit near galleys. You're behind a locked bullet-resistent door. Just fly, Captain.
 
There's nothing in this thread that isn't known to passengers who board early and sit near galleys. You're behind a locked bullet-resistent door. Just fly, Captain.

Spare me the flippant "just fly, Captain". My job isn't some cubicle with 20 year old Europe or Caribbean travel posters on the walls. Your right that a somewhat knowledgeable passenger might be able to learn alot about security procedures. They are not privy to knowledge about PNR codes, LEO required travel documents or armed passenger boarding procedures and their location.

I'll "just fly", but I will be always be alert for brainless lapses of security, of which a few have posted on this topic. As a background, more than a few of us, including APA, voiced a concern for cockpit security and flimsy doors, and FA's who could walk in with their keys unannounced prior to 9/11. We were told to "just fly, Captain" by some clueless beancounter/cubicle dwellers.
 
Any five year old with an internet connection and Google could get 100 times more info, than anything posted here. I am just not sure where these secret PNR codes you see are posted. The fact that a LEO requires some sort of documentation, please no one can get on a plane with out something like that.

Personally If it were me, I would be more concerned of someone who was not a FA walking in unannounced. Not the other way around.
 
Any five year old with an internet connection and Google could get 100 times more info, than anything posted here. I am just not sure where these secret PNR codes you see are posted. The fact that a LEO requires some sort of documentation, please no one can get on a plane with out something like that.

Personally If it were me, I would be more concerned of someone who was not a FA walking in unannounced. Not the other way around.

The FA's walking in without announcing was a pre 9/11 issue, not today. It was one part of a big cockpit access problem that all airlines did not want to address ($$$) and the ATA made sure the FAA went nowhere.

I agree with you on the info availibility. I do however see no need to make life easier for a copycat or an idiot whackjob to easily obtain intel by going to forum used by (claimed) employees of a specific US airline and specific procedures. intel is intel, a little bit here and there fills in the picture and makes weaknesses easier to see.

Any idiot see that.
 
Have you suggested to the airline that this information be removed from aa.com?

It's borderline. I'd rather AA have a desk to discretly handle issues like that. Do you want to nitpick and dissect every little word in my post? what I wrote is not a legal document or a dissertation. In general, some information posted here should have been left off unless the poster is actually qualified to make decisons on if it's suitable for public discussion.
 
Maybe some public discussion among all us, as you say"idiots" is just what is needed to make a change. Since NOTHING posted here is of any value or consequence, many of us are wondering whats all the drama about?
 

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