Loa 91 Membership Ratification Timeline

[USA320Pilot]

Today Jeff Small, an attorney and ALPA's Contract Administrator (our legal expert), who's expertise is used extensively in ALPA negotiations, contract language, contract interpretation, and grievance proceedings just confirmed the 279 minimum fleet count remains intact and is not effected by LOA 91.

Thus, the RC5, their supporters, and the unofficial talking point paper is wrong in regard to this issue.

Respectfully,

USA320Pilot

 

[kiloromeo]

while everyone is demanding assurances...and guarantees...the only assurance is SWA will be in PHL with 49$ fares for the foreseeable future and this is guaranteed to put usairways out of business...

 

[UFO]

USA320pilot,

If the wonderful Jeff Small is so sure of this then perhaps you can cut and paste the part of the loa that confirms this ???
Otherwise every pilot should just vote NO!!!

 

[ClueByFour]

Today Jeff Small, an attorney and ALPA's Contract Administrator (our legal expert), who's expertise is used extensively in ALPA negotiations, contract language, contract interpretation, and grievance proceedings just confirmed the 279 minimum fleet count remains intact and is not effected by LOA 91.

Thus, the RC5, their supporters, and the unofficial talking point paper is wrong in regard to this issue.

Given the number of grievences currently open on behalf of the AAA ALPA MEC, and especially in light of the IAM-M debacle, I think it's probably safe to say that nothing is in stone until Jeff Small (or any other counsel retained by ALPA) has defended it before an arbitrator.

I mean, the company wins most of 'em, right?

 

[delldude]

i think i'd wish to see it cast in stone myself.....

 

[fatburger]

LOA 91................VOTE NO!!!!

-fatburger-

 

[A320 Driver]

LOA 91...VOTE YES

A320 Driver

 

[ClueByFour]

LOA 91...VOTE YES

A320 Driver

And subsequently thank the next MAA pilot you see for taking another one in the jimmy. For the "team."

 

[savyinvestor]

LOA 91...VOTE YES

A320 Driver

Sorry got to agree with fatburger! Savy

 

[abonny]

Did the airline improve after Concessions one and two, or was our money spent on Lawyers who used the poorly written agreements to find even more ways to screw the employees?

Our give backs and money were used to pay for the cost of going after more concessions through one abritration after another. (Obviously it was not used to help our airline.)

Whose job was saved or made more secure through the last two rounds of concessions?
- Siegel, Glass, Cohen & Upper Management (Merit Raises, bonuses, stock options).

Whose job will be guaranteed and who will profit when millions of stock options increase if the employees agree to a third round of concessions?
- Siegel, Glass & Cohen.

We have seen what this management can do to the employees with one or two poorly written paragraphs, imagine what they can do with 38 Legal PAGES of ALPA Scope language!?†That’s more scope than all USA pilot and flight attendant contracts combined!

About the guaranteed aircraft, never underestimate the depths this management will sink. Double check with the other employee groups to see if their guarantee is “tied†in some way to the pilots bid lines. Do not assume anything when it comes to the group of union busters we work for.

The FA agreement states: “The Active Aircraft count will not fall below 245 prior to December 31, 2008. Absent a bankruptcy filing as described above, the Active Aircraft Count will not drop below 275 prior to December 31, 2008.â€

However, it then goes on to say: “For the purpose of the “Active Aircraft Count†means the number of aircraft in the pilot permanent bid plus an additional number of aircraft equal to 8% of the number of aircraft in the pilot permanent bid.â€

Get the guarantee in writing or we may all be looking for jobs and the pilots, those who still have their jobs, could be working for less than what the SWA FA’s negotiate in their next contract!

LOA 91---VOTE NO!!!

 

[PITbull]

abonny,

Couldn't agree with you more!