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With a rduction in flying and the talks of a merger , how far off can layoffs be ? There is alredy talk that a merger with UA would produce significant layoffs. Anyone hear anything ?
 
With a rduction in flying and the talks of a merger , how far off can layoffs be ? There is alredy talk that a merger with UA would produce significant layoffs. Anyone hear anything ?
Sounds like a good bet to me. It will depend on how much overlap/duplication has to be cut to satisfy the government against antitrust.
 
Probably a 20% reduction across the board. Places like Charlotte would be gutted.

CLT? Where is the UAL southern hub? It seems to me that UAL is in no positon to be dictating anything. CAL got a real look at the books and ran like heck. I think Parker's ego will make him do this ill advised deal, but UAL is the the weaker partner. Let us hope Congress says enough is enough to these mergers and makes these lame CEOs actually run their airlines. If UAL is taken over by LCC, PHX, LAS and especially IAD-DCA-BWI would be more likely to suffer cuts and or consolidation. But I guess you just wanted to stir-the-pot. So...right back at you. :up:
 
guys ,please stop. no one knows what type of layoffs will be. nothing has been announced. for all we know us will go at this stand alone (doubtful) or ual just might say they do not want to hook up with us(doubtful as well) . bottom line is everyone is getting worked up over nothing right now. until something is announced and for sure (because remember usairways and ual tried to hook up before and it was supposedly a "done deal" which never happened) then we can start speculating. for now do what you do best and that is provide the best service you can .
 
CLT? Where is the UAL southern hub? It seems to me that UAL is in no positon to be dictating anything. CAL got a real look at the books and ran like heck. I think Parker's ego will make him do this ill advised deal, but UAL is the the weaker partner. Let us hope Congress says enough is enough to these mergers and makes these lame CEOs actually run their airlines. If UAL is taken over by LCC, PHX, LAS and especially IAD-DCA-BWI would be more likely to suffer cuts and or consolidation. But I guess you just wanted to stir-the-pot. So...right back at you. :up:

The topic was being discussed on the Radio this morning. The expert they had said that if this went through two of the current hubs would be done away with. He felt that IAD for United would be scaled way back, and Charlotte would no longer live to be a hub. He felt that IAD would be given up as a concession to meet the regulators needs and Charlotte since it was not economically feasible in this market. He did not specifically mention LAS though we would assume that would get cut back as well. He specifically mentioned PHL as a hub that would see significant growth because of the current international operations and market size.
 
The topic was being discussed on the Radio this morning. The expert they had said that if this went through two of the current hubs would be done away with. He felt that IAD for United would be scaled way back, and Charlotte would no longer live to be a hub. He felt that IAD would be given up as a concession to meet the regulators needs and Charlotte since it was not economically feasible in this market. He did not specifically mention LAS though we would assume that would get cut back as well. He specifically mentioned PHL as a hub that would see significant growth because of the current international operations and market size.
Well Charlotte airport is equipped for a big airline and someone else will profit if it gets broken up. Someone will want a large presence here. Hell, WN would probably wet themselves and drop RDU so fast at a shot of a few clt gates. Whatever, I don't even care anymore.
 
I don't see CLT being downsized in a US/UA merger if anything it will get bigger more Caribbean hello s america
 
Well Charlotte airport is equipped for a big airline and someone else will profit if it gets broken up. Someone will want a large presence here. Hell, WN would probably wet themselves and drop RDU so fast at a shot of a few clt gates. Whatever, I don't even care anymore.

That was about the gist of the announcer. He felt that if the merger went through they would have to give up some current hubs to appease any government regulators, and IAD and CLT were the one's that made the most sense according to this guy.
 
Well Charlotte airport is equipped for a big airline and someone else will profit if it gets broken up. Someone will want a large presence here. Hell, WN would probably wet themselves and drop RDU so fast at a shot of a few clt gates. Whatever, I don't even care anymore.
Yep someone filled that void of those great HUBS of the pass PIT/DAY/BWI/SAN/MEM/BNA/STL/MCI/etc. Didn’t they? Did I leave any out? CLT is a great hub hate to see it down sized great station great HUB When this stuff goes down no body is immune except senior management
 
The areas most at risk PIT, all of Tech Ops in PIT, PHX & CLT, LAS, PHX HQ Staff, IAD, BWI, Reno Res, PHX IT,
Then they would have to settle things like the Reservations call centers, SOCs (PIT or ORD).
Engineering would be 1 East coast and one West not 4 or 5 cites.
 
Speaking of layoffs----I imagine it would be handled exactly as the US-HP merger was. Nobody was forced out.....But, supposing the headquarters for the combined carrier is in ord. Several thousand phx based employees would be told they still have a job but they need to move to ord...or, if they can't move...they can take a severance package....The vast majority will take the severance package and either retire or change carreers. So even though many jobs will be lost, there might not be very many actual layoffs. I know....pure speculation at this point.
 
I seriously doubt that IAD would scale back that much, first, IAD is pretty much filled with govt. employees from D.C., and has flights to all parts of the world. The only thing I see IAD competing with is CLT, and IAD would win over CLT in a dead minute. Although PHL and IAD are close, IAD serves a purpose and is much more efficient than PHL, I think if they both serve their purpose and do well they would both remain as is, and just scale back on duplicate routes. where you will see the real chop is in PHX and LAS where there is alot of competition with LCC's... If this happens - Lets just all pray that Douggie doesn't chop up and make us ghetto like he did US, and lets make damn sure that Shambles is not around, heck I will even start the petition.
 

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