WOJetDreamer
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- Apr 21, 2003
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I posted this on another topic and thought it pertains to this one also!!!!
Lets quit blaming each other over what is going on here. Some call it a race to the bottom! If you want someone to blame then look at Southwest, Airtran, Jetblue, American West, Spirit, ect. ect. These airlines are the fuel to our fire.
There is a reason why the wages are sliding in every area of our airlines! Its because our costomers are no longer willing to pay $1000+ for a seat on our aircraft. REVENUE is falling even though traffic is increaseing. And the consumer is going to fly the cheapest airline. And it is easier than ever to find that cheapest ticket with the internet.
Folks this is not the 80's and early 90's. The highly paid airline pilot is going away. Revenue now days will not support it. You can see this especially at US Airways. Just look at the employees at U. They are the most senior people making those senior $$s. U has no junior employees making less $$ doing the same job to offset those at the top making the big $$. Everyone is making $$ due to their years of service.
I cant help to see a much bigger problem for our costomers in the future if the LCC keeps taking over. As we all know all of the LCC dont and cant service the small markets like U does with Dash8 and Small RJs. So what will happen to airline service to all the small towns? Go away!!! Because once again the LCC can not operate in that enviroment and make money.
If I am not mistaking I think I heard that Southwest would have lost money last quarter if it was not for their fuel hedging. WOW!! I also heard Southwest must expand to stay profitable because as their pilot group matures so does the companies cost. So to counteract that they must expand and bring on NEW (Junior) employess making less $$ doing the same job to offset those senior empolyees making Big $$. But as you can see you can only grow so much until the revenue does not meet the cost. Which is exactly what has happened to the legacy carriers.
So for US Airways to survive everyone has to let go that the high paying airline is a thing of the past. As far as pilots go, No I dont think the pay should be reduced. I do think though that eveyone needs to an increase in productivity. Pilots should fly as close to 1000 hours/year and leave it up to management and scheduling to stop all of this sitting around. That goes for the gate agents, ramper, ect.... Having a hub and spoke system lends its self to alot of sitting around with an hour of actual work as banks come in and go out.
Ok enough from me....Hope this made some kind of sense
Lets quit blaming each other over what is going on here. Some call it a race to the bottom! If you want someone to blame then look at Southwest, Airtran, Jetblue, American West, Spirit, ect. ect. These airlines are the fuel to our fire.
There is a reason why the wages are sliding in every area of our airlines! Its because our costomers are no longer willing to pay $1000+ for a seat on our aircraft. REVENUE is falling even though traffic is increaseing. And the consumer is going to fly the cheapest airline. And it is easier than ever to find that cheapest ticket with the internet.
Folks this is not the 80's and early 90's. The highly paid airline pilot is going away. Revenue now days will not support it. You can see this especially at US Airways. Just look at the employees at U. They are the most senior people making those senior $$s. U has no junior employees making less $$ doing the same job to offset those at the top making the big $$. Everyone is making $$ due to their years of service.
I cant help to see a much bigger problem for our costomers in the future if the LCC keeps taking over. As we all know all of the LCC dont and cant service the small markets like U does with Dash8 and Small RJs. So what will happen to airline service to all the small towns? Go away!!! Because once again the LCC can not operate in that enviroment and make money.
If I am not mistaking I think I heard that Southwest would have lost money last quarter if it was not for their fuel hedging. WOW!! I also heard Southwest must expand to stay profitable because as their pilot group matures so does the companies cost. So to counteract that they must expand and bring on NEW (Junior) employess making less $$ doing the same job to offset those senior empolyees making Big $$. But as you can see you can only grow so much until the revenue does not meet the cost. Which is exactly what has happened to the legacy carriers.
So for US Airways to survive everyone has to let go that the high paying airline is a thing of the past. As far as pilots go, No I dont think the pay should be reduced. I do think though that eveyone needs to an increase in productivity. Pilots should fly as close to 1000 hours/year and leave it up to management and scheduling to stop all of this sitting around. That goes for the gate agents, ramper, ect.... Having a hub and spoke system lends its self to alot of sitting around with an hour of actual work as banks come in and go out.
Ok enough from me....Hope this made some kind of sense
