OK Garfield.
Just another liberal hypocrite
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KCFlyer
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well...it would depend on what "testament" you were reading. A lot of Christians cherry pick from each version....gay marriage (or gay anything) is usually cited from Leviticus. They really don't mention much about divorce or adultery. Good old Leviticus was pretty clear on adultery, but the values voters don't seem to mind their guy being a serial adulterer. It's rather odd to me....they all worry about "the sanctity of marriage" and how two gay people getting married will rip away at that sanctity....but 50% of heterosexual marriages end in divorce. They don't seem to address that.
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It's funny, I follow a lot of evangelicals on Twitter and elsewhere, yet the only person who has mentioned Leviticus in the past 2-3 years seems to be you.
Also, your "50% of hetero marriages end in divorce" is fake news and has no math to back it up. That was an estimate from the 1980's, and it was inaccurate back then, too.
Looking at real data, it is likely in the 25-30% range on a gross basis, and less so when you add in whether or not they have kids. The data spikes when you see 1-2 years (people who had no business getting married) and again after 20 years (people who stayed married long enough to raise their kids).
Since the real purpose of civil marriage was to promote financial stability in the upbringing of children, maybe civil marriages should have an expiration date. That would probably decimate the divorce rate.
Also, your "50% of hetero marriages end in divorce" is fake news and has no math to back it up. That was an estimate from the 1980's, and it was inaccurate back then, too.
Looking at real data, it is likely in the 25-30% range on a gross basis, and less so when you add in whether or not they have kids. The data spikes when you see 1-2 years (people who had no business getting married) and again after 20 years (people who stayed married long enough to raise their kids).
Since the real purpose of civil marriage was to promote financial stability in the upbringing of children, maybe civil marriages should have an expiration date. That would probably decimate the divorce rate.
KCFlyer
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REally....what are the predominant citations when it comes to homosexuality?
Dog Wonder
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Communissss!
KCFlyer
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He will never figure that one out if he can't figure out the Commies have made him a Facebook chump.
eolesen
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Today, it's Matthew 22:15–22
KCFlyer
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Notify your evangelicals...they usually tend to quote from the old testament. But...Oklahoma banned Sharia law because we didn't want our laws based on some crazy religion. Why should we have laws based on Matthew 22: 15-22? Religion is religion...ain't it?
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This statement just shows how little you you know about Sharia. Sharia is not a "religion" in itself. It is a set of "laws" practiced by a curtain religion. There is a difference.
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........ Damn right!!!!
KCFlyer
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It is laws based on a religious belief. How does this differ from opposing gay marriage by citing Christian beliefs? Isn't that making laws based on a religion?
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Clearly you don't understand Matthew 22: 15-22 *or* evangelicals... Shocking.
Evangelicals put the New Testament ahead of everything, including ahead of the Old Testament where there may be perceived conflicts in Hebrew law vs. the words of Jesus. Essentially that says Christians have to abide by the laws of the land you live in, in addition to the laws of God, e.g. just because you don't like taxation or your secular ruler doesn't mean you cannot pay your taxes or disobey their commands without consequence.
Gay marriage in the secular realm is a settled issue, so maybe it's time for you to stop fighting battles already won.
Sharia? It's a system of laws based on Islamic principles, and Muslims can submit to arbitration rulings today by that vs. a civil court, just as Jews can submit to a ruling via a Halakha court instead of a civil court. Some states choose to recognize other rulings from those settings, e.g. a divorce get from the Beth Din is usually considered binding and recognized in states like New York (i.e. if the marriage was a religious marriage recognized by the state, then the divorce authority can also be given by the religious authority as well).
Others don't. Oklahoma took an extreme view, and it will probably be overturned unless arbitration outcomes from other faith based courts are also disregarded.
Have no idea what means but it it makes you feel better.
