June - IAM Fleet Service Discussion

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ograc said:
pj,
You fail to acknowledge that 6 candidates on the ND Team, including the current President, have served on the previous Canali Team so I will do it for you. I, personally, don't have a problem with that. Apparently you do. Your position, based on distrust of candidates who served on the Canali Team, is a bit hypocritical when you support a team that has the same number of candidates who served on the said team. Inclusive of the current President. No dissention on our team. I have never stated if my team were in office the BUF employees would not have been walked off the property. I have only questioned the remedial action for the affected employees in BUF. Your comprehension of previous posts seems to be clouded with you're perception and disdain of certain candidates. IMO... previous experience with past leadership team is a positive.
ograc
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ograc,

You fail to acknowledge that those 6 embraced the notion that canoli had to go, and be gone forever. And in doing so joined the team that wants to help the membership, not treat them like mushrooms. Take MW, he, at one time, may have been a good AGC, but when his boys and canoli were ousted in 2008, he stopped doing that, and in doing so, did the members a great injustice. And you want us to go on past performance? Where does that put MW? Are we supposed to forget that he screwed over the membership fo two years collecting a nice paycheck, and give him another chance? I don't think so, he shouldn't be allowed to get off that easily. I thought MC was a good AGC, but I wouldn't be able to support him, if he were running, because of what transpired. Then you have KA, canoli's go to girl, she is just as bad as canoli. But I digress. You repeatedly brought up the BUF situation, not me, and hinted that your ticket could have done things differently. My reading comprehension is just fine on that matter. But when you are called out on it, you backpedal, to a more neutral stance. Which is it? Do you even know what the IAM got for those BUF employees? Or are you guessing and speculating due to your political agenda? My perception and disdain of certain candidates is not clouded. It is clear as day. I wish I could turn a blind eye like you can, just for political and finacial gain. In the end, you are correct, that the members have the ultimate say as to who will be leading us for the next 2-4 years. And hopefully, IMO, the LfP ticket, and the Occupy ticket get left behind.
 
ograc,

Lets not forget that none, I repeat, none of the US people running on the 141 rising ticket, and currently in office, none of them ever served under canoli.
 
pjirish317 said:
ograc,

Lets not forget that none, I repeat, none of the US people running on the 141 rising ticket, and currently in office, none of them ever served under canoli.
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And I presume, based on your opinion, this qualifies them as the best potential officers. Imo... a very self centered expectation of who is the most qualified to serve. It seems your assault now is limited to only the US candidates who previously served on the Canali Team. I'm having a hard time understanding your thought process. So, let me get this straight, what you are saying is it is acceptable to endorse candidates on the UA side of the ND team who served on the Canali Team but not acceptable to endorse candidates on the US side who served on the Canali Team. You're self centered opinion, although contradictory and confusing, is duly noted. Your agenda is quite clear and also duly noted. Canali's team has been gone four years now. Let's focus on the past four years under the ND team shall we?
ograc
 
The Bagfather said:
DL?

Well... Tim thinks he's Bluto... you get the cigar though!
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ograc said:
And I presume, based on your opinion, this qualifies them as the best potential officers. Imo... a very self centered expectation of who is the most qualified to serve. It seems your assault now is limited to only the US candidates who previously served on the Canali Team. I'm having a hard time understanding your thought process. So, let me get this straight, what you are saying is it is acceptable to endorse candidates on the UA side of the ND team who served on the Canali Team but not acceptable to endorse candidates on the US side who served on the Canali Team. You're self centered opinion, although contradictory and confusing, is duly noted. Your agenda is quite clear and also duly noted. Canali's team has been gone four years now. Let's focus on the past four years under the ND team shall we?
ograc

Let's focus on the NEXT four years of 141/R (ND)!
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There are more videos to view on the 141 Rising site...

Here is my favorite so far...

Roabilly's pick of the week
 
ograc said:
And I presume, based on your opinion, this qualifies them as the best potential officers. Imo... a very self centered expectation of who is the most qualified to serve. It seems your assault now is limited to only the US candidates who previously served on the Canali Team. I'm having a hard time understanding your thought process. So, let me get this straight, what you are saying is it is acceptable to endorse candidates on the UA side of the ND team who served on the Canali Team but not acceptable to endorse candidates on the US side who served on the Canali Team. You're self centered opinion, although contradictory and confusing, is duly noted. Your agenda is quite clear and also duly noted. Canali's team has been gone four years now. Let's focus on the past four years under the ND team shall we?
ograc
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ograc,

WOW you presume alot when it comes to my posts. YOU pointed out that there were 6 candidates on the 141 rising ticket. I pointed out that none of them were US, thats all. But let me guess, you think you are more qualified than the current AGC's in office now? How and why is that? So yes, IMO, that does qualify them as the best suited for office, more so than you that is for sure! Also, no, I am endorsing candidates that have the same ideoligy that I do when it comes to the advancement of the membership. Not people who endorse a lazy, has been AGC, and a team that is full of people that want to treat the membership like mushrooms, like the LfP team, and yourself. And although canoli's team has been all they way gone since 2010, the LfP team looks to bring them back, along with canoli's way of treating the membership and the way he dealt with management. IMO of course. You make it quite clear where your allegiance's are, and I bet you even fought against the current officers just because your people, the canoli people, lost in 2008 and 2010 respectively didn't you? I certainly hope that YOU do not get into office, IMO, you may be worse than MW, if not, you would be a close second. IMO, bringing you to a step 3 hearing as an AGC, would be like bringing a knife to a gun fight. What about the past four years under the ND team? Specifically on the US side? Quit being coy and man up. Take a stand and please tell us where and when they did us wrong? Let's exclude BUF please, we know already that you could have done better, in your mind anyway.
 
IAH is well over 98 weekly mainline flights. It is still contracted out. Has our union seen about getting our employees back in there?
 
You first have to someone actually watching the ship, which I find it hard to believe that anyone's really assigned to that under this administration!!!!
 
28L_or_10R? said:
IAH is well over 98 weekly mainline flights. It is still contracted out. Has our union seen about getting our employees back in there?
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Believe me, the leadership has its finger on the pulse, so to speak. If it was indeed 98+ it would be addressed immediately. Article 3.3d applied till Dec 2011 no matter what the Flt activity i believe. Article 3.3a uses april 5 as the start of the 12 mo. average.
Even if the Dec 2011 date wasn't in the language, IAH fell short to about 80-90 average is what i hear. I wonder how many AA flts are there?
 
15CAG45BLJ said:
Nice vid Billy thanks for putting this out to show how much these guys love them selfs...As for the Vid Another soft talking POS.... Next time you want to be serious try a clean shirt and comb your dam hair Geez.....
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These are not politicians that run countries.............These are real people that pledge to help fellow employees. No different than the other slates videos. Get use to it.....you may need them personally one day and I'm sure you won't even notice their hair styles !
 
15CAG45BLJ said:
Nice vid Billy thanks for putting this out to show how much these guys love them selfs...As for the Vid Another soft talking POS.... Next time you want to be serious try a clean shirt and comb your dam hair Geez.....
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whats wrong dude why the hate?
r u afraid these folks r gonna keep
doin an excelent job? i bet u r cuz
u will never get elected! ur the POS!
an we'll show u in only 11 days!
 
As to IAH: I just looked up this year's flights for two weeks, one in June and one in Oct. Unless IAH goes mainline to stations besides the hubs the numbers are 102/wk in june and 84/wk in Oct. So If half the year is summer sced and the other halk is winter sced( as in Oct) the average is 97 flts/wk. So its very close. I dont know last years numbers( They are calculated, per contract, Apr 5 to Apr 5) So if last years are under we wait till Apr 5 2013.
 
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