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[local 12 proud]

Somehow, I have a feeling that if the DOT statistics supported the unionista position, they wouldn't be rejecting the entire science of mathematics out of hand.

Not so, for this unionist. I think my position on the inability of the governments various agencies to successfully manage their way out of a wet paper sack has been made quite evident.

 

[PlayTheOdds]

Not so, for this unionist. I think my position on the inability of the governments various agencies to successfully manage their way out of a wet paper sack has been made quite evident.

That is all sweet and dandy local but where was this stance you are taking when Hackman was posting the Stats? Why were they so grand then?

Because they supported your belief that NWA was a failing Airline, the stats weren’t wrong when things were not going so well and they are not wrong now. Now that they show different you claim that it is lies. What a sad world of denial you guys live in.

 

[local 12 proud]

That is all sweet and dandy local but where was this stance you are taking when Hackman was posting the Stats? Why were they so grand then?

Because they supported your belief that NWA was a failing Airline, the stats weren’t wrong when things were not going so well and they are not wrong now. Now that they show different you claim that it is lies. What a sad world of denial you guys live in.

I've never put much weight into the accuracy of statistics of any kind, and certainly not those contrived by government.

Let me say it once again real slow in big bold letters so you can grasp hold.

"The proof is in the pudding"

 

[Hackman]

That is all sweet and dandy local but where was this stance you are taking when Hackman was posting the Stats? Why were they so grand then?

Because they supported your belief that NWA was a failing Airline, the stats weren’t wrong when things were not going so well and they are not wrong now. Now that they show different you claim that it is lies. What a sad world of denial you guys live in.

Exacty. I'm not a scab living a web of lies and deception in order to obtain a career. I went in the front door, and you had to slither in the back on the scab bus. Get used to the fact your word will always be questioned in your lifetime, your a worthless scab. :huh:

"What a sad world of denial you guys live in". Look in the mirror 'Cods.

 

[Hackman]

Dear Communist Sheep,

I asked you first.

I work for AA bootlicker, and if anything, I am a semi-socalist.

Read: "How I became a Socialist" by Jack London.

It rings true now more than ever.

"Since that day I have opened many books, but no econonmic argument, no lucid demonstration of logic and inevitableness of Socialism affects me as profoundly and convincingly as I was affected on the day when I first saw the walls of the Social Pit rise around me and felt myself slipping down, down, into the shambles at the bottom". Jack London

BTW, that means you PlaytheCods. Read it and see if it doesn't sound like the SUPERscab you claim you are 'Cods. Out to save Scab Air, and then be cast aside like trash when you are done being used by the man.

 

[local 12 proud]

I'm not a scab living a web of lies and deception in order to obtain a career.

Thats the catch right there in a nutshell Hackman, PTO never intended to make a career of anything. he has been traversing the countryside abandoning his family living out of a suitcase like some gypsy for what ever he can get.
he had a chance to sellout the Mechanics for a measley thirty pieces of silver and he jumped at the chance.

He is a disgrace to aviation mechanics and forever sealed his fate in hopes of working for a successful Airline. Somehow though I doubt he gives that a second thought, and will always be chasing a job verses a career. The only loyalties PTO acknowledge's is to himself, a modern day Judas Iscariot type who will always be despised and shunned, and like a dog begging at the dinner table he will get only the scraps.

 

[dc3fanatic]

I work for AA

Very well, then the question I asked isn't relevant to you.

 

[local 12 proud]

Very well, then the question I asked isn't relevant to you.

Nor is the answer relevant to you!

What difference does it make where we work? we're A/C Mechanics defending the trade and that means ALL mechanics who support the craft. Of course SCABS are excluded because they udermine the struggle, and deprive the Unions the one tactic that can bring the company back to the negotiating table.

Anymore irrelevant questions?

 

[dc3fanatic]

Nor is the answer relevant to you!

What difference does it make where we work? we're A/C Mechanics defending the trade and that means ALL mechanics who support the craft. Of course SCABS are excluded because they udermine the struggle, and deprive the Unions the one tactic that can bring the company back to the negotiating table.

Anymore irrelevant questions?

My SINCERE apologies for my irrelevant curiosity. I was just curious how people that talked about integrity all day long justified working for 'slimy' people (mgmt).

The difference (since I need to spell it out to you) is that we are posting on the NWA boards and you've been saying data published by NWA is false.

If you said AA was a bunch of slimebags and constantly published false data, then I would ask the question again.

 

[local 12 proud]

I was just curious how people that talked about integrity all day long justified working for 'slimy' people (mgmt).

Guess you would have to address that question to the SCAB PTO, glad you agree (mgmt) at NWA are "slimy" people.

 

[dc3fanatic]

Guess you would have to address that question to the SCAB PTO, glad you agree (mgmt) at NWA are "slimy" people.

I haven't made a determination if they are slimy or not.

The original statement was something along the lines of "If YOU feel . . ." not "I Feel . . ."

I was directing the question to people that had made that determination and do work for NWA. OR have made that determination for whoever they work for.

 

[local 12 proud]

The difference (since I need to spell it out to you) is that we are posting on the NWA boards and you've been saying data published by NWA is false.

I guess you also have a problem with reading comprehension, so (allow me to spell it out to you again).

I do not have much faith in statistics, especially those reported by inept government agencies and don't believe the numbers to be factual from some bean counter who post's on this board.

Do I trust NWA to post honest numbers?... well let me put to you as I did PTO.

"The proof is in the pudding"

 

[local 12 proud]

My SINCERE apologies for my irrelevant curiosity.

dc3fanatic, if you have'nt figured it out by now then to answer your question... No I do not work for NWA airlines. I originally came to the NWA boards to show solidarity to my AMFA brothers/sisters and their cause, I still support them and what they did.

It became a SCAB bash when PTO/KTO/? came here announcing he was a SCAB and damn proud of it, he has no respect for his own chosen craft and certainly none for those who took a stand. he will continue to be confronted by supporters of the AMFA and the mechanics he is selling out by being a SCAB.

I make no apologies to anyone who sides with management on these boards, I have my reasons for lack of trust or respect, I've given them many times and will not rehash it again. If you don't like my post, then hit the ignore key and move on. for me, I will confront any who attack my chosen trade and try to sell a load of BS!

 

[dc3fanatic]

"The proof is in the pudding"

http://ask.yahoo.com/20020903.html

It means that the true value or quality of something can only be judged when it's put to use. The meaning is often summed up as "results are what count."

If you don't beleive anything anyone publishes, how do you measure results and get your 'pudding proof'?

I don't understand how you apply your phrase "The proof is in the pudding"

or this def
http://www.clarion-call.org/yeshua/pudding/proof.htm

It means that the true value or quality of something can
only be judged when it's put to use or tried and tested.
The meaning is often summed up as:
"Results are what count...it's not how you start, but how you finish."

What results would you use if you can't use stats?

 

[local 12 proud]

http://ask.yahoo.com/20020903.html
If you don't beleive anything anyone publishes, how do you measure results and get your 'pudding proof'?

I don't understand how you apply your phrase "The proof is in the pudding"

or this def
http://www.clarion-call.org/yeshua/pudding/proof.htm

What results would you use if you can't use stats?

Give me a break man! the "proof of the pudding is in the eating" means simply that you can see the end result for yourself by testing the damn thing.

are you that naieve?

Go test the waters and see what transpires, ask those who are actually effected by the fiasco. I happen to be closely associated with the front line and the picture is ugly to say the least.

So you believe whatever the government and corporate america publishes? I guess the color of the koolaid makes no difference to you, just as long as its real sweet.