JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet

[WeAAsles]

Weez is this Q&A on the IAM website or Jet Net hahhahaha

It's out. Go find it. Been out for almost an hour now.

 

[lax]

www.twulocal568.org

 

[Worldport]

It's out. Go find it. Been out for almost an hour now.

So the number is 520 hours?

 

[WeAAsles]

http://www.usaamerger.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Tech20Ops_FS_Pay20increase20FAQ20-20DRAFT20v14.pdf

 

[WeAAsles]

A topped out Ramp Agent at AA makes over $70,000 per year in pay and benefits.
Hoo Rah Baby.

So at least 5 readers (Probably passengers) don't like what the company is paying us now.

Tough luck. (Think stronger language)

 

[Worldport]

So at least 5 readers (Probably passengers) don't like what the company is paying us now.

Tough luck. (Think stronger language)

I think they just like to give you red marks

 

[Talos]

I thought you wanted me not to respond to you? From now on here is my simple response to you on this thread.

A topped out Ramp Agent at AA makes over $70,000 per year in pay and benefits.

This guy must have been gone for quite some time. Most of the easier jobs have disappeared and working 2 hours out of 8 sounds kind of funny. 

 

[WeAAsles]

I think they just like to give you red marks

Oh yea. Badge of honor getting under (some) people's skin. What do I care. I'm making Bucu Bucks Baby.

http://youtu.be/dDHErN3dOkc

 

[WeAAsles]

This guy must have been gone for quite some time. Most of the easier jobs have disappeared and working 2 hours out of 8 sounds kind of funny.

Exactly. He thinks we're all Encoders I guess?

 

[Talos]

There may be some truth to that.
 
However I will say my home town had 2 glass plants, one UNIONized and one not. The nonUNIONIZED factory made no attempt to match benefits or wages to the UNIONIZED one.
 
I will say the UNIONized factory did go through a cycle of being UNION and nonUNION and the employees did tend to make more and have better benefits while UNIONized.
 
I will also say when UNIONized the factory did not have people sitting around playing dominoes and watching TV 6 hours a day either. 
 
I don't know if all airlines are like that but I certainly saw a lot of it at American Airlines. 
 
A crew chief that never left the shop, a bus driver that worked less than 2 hours a day (and still complained when asked to do his job), an inside person that sit most of the day everyday making a crew wait on supplies for an aircraft for over an hour because he wanted to catch a show (he flat out told me that)........
 
All these people made $21.16 (top out at the time, more for the crew chief) for a job that required less than 2 hours (usually) to complete everyday. Most of them did not even fulfill their job responsibilities.
 
Everyone of them made 169.28 a day for 2 hours of unskilled work you could train anyone to do in a week (or less) with full benefits. Instead of being thankful for getting a decent check for very little investment on their own part they have the audacity and sense of entitlement to DEMAND more money.
 
If you want to talk about fair and right WeAAsles do you think it is fair and right for a worker to be paid 169.28 a day for 2 hours or less of unskilled work (and usually done at low quality at that) shirking his job responsibilities and demanding more money and better benefits?
 
Let me put it another way. How would you feel if YOU had to pay someone $3385.60 a month for driving a bus 40 hours (that's $21.16 times 2 hours a day of actual drive time) in a months time (that comes out to be $84.64 per hour of actual drive time PLUS BENEFITS!!!!) out of your own pocket and then your driver came up to you demanding more money. I bet your attitude would change real fast if you were on the other side of the employment fence. 
 
Do you think it is fair for an employee to demand of his employer more pay and more benefits when the employee contributes nothing to improve his value over 40 years of employment?
 
YOUR definition of fair is you get what you feel entitled to, not what worth you actually bring to the company.

Very out of line. Distorted view that sounds like it's coming from a bitter person for whatever reason.

 

[Talos]

Exactly. He thinks we're all Encoders I guess?

And those guys all have like 35-40 years.

 

[AANOTOK]

Is it 480 or 520.. or something else?

 

[WeAAsles]

And those guys all have like 35-40 years.

Third flight in a row I'm loading 100 bags in the back. About 120 degrees in this belly. No complaints but I "earn" my pay.

 

[WeAAsles]

Is it 480 or 520.. or something else?

520

 

[Worldport]

Third flight in a row I'm loading 100 bags in the back. About 120 degrees in this belly. No complaints but I "earn" my pay.

Not according to Tim