Is it ‘ok’ for the IAM to cross a picket line?

[pitguy]

I feel it is wrong of the IAM to want to continue to represent the mechanics and related when it appears all they really want is the dues money. Sort of like 'taxation without representation'. I find it unacceptable they are a scab union at Northwest.



(Note: I have made this poll and topic at Paul' request.)

 

[700UW]

You need to add is it ok that ibt represented Flight Attendants and Dispatchers at Champion Air flew flights for NWA that otherwise would have been cancelled due to the strike.

Also why dont you add PFAA and ALPA too?

 

[pitguy]

The IAM crossing the mechanic's picket line is wrong.............very wrong.

 

[700UW]

There are no IAM mechanics at NWA.

Don't let the facts get in your way mr management.

What about the ibt organizing scabs at CO into the ibt?

 

[delldude]

I feel it is wrong of the IAM to want to continue to represent the mechanics and related when it appears all they really want is the dues money. Sort of like 'taxation without representation'. I find it unacceptable they are a scab union at Northwest.
(Note: I have made this poll and topic at Paul' request.)

filing a personal bankruptcy over it?

you aren't even an IAM member.....

 

[smorzando]

filing a personal bankruptcy over it?

you aren't even an IAM member.....

This guy (pitguy) needs help, he's over the top with his unrealistic hatred of the IAM.

Help should be forth coming ASAP least permanent damage will occur.

 

[pitguy]

I have been an IAM member for many years and for different operators. I have held several IAM offices because I feel employees have a right to be treated fairly. Yes, I strongly dislike the IAM and it looks like the poll is running 70% in the same favor currently. While I do not need therapy I probably should lower my level of discontent for the IAM. I can not understand why someone who has been so beat down by the IAM can remain so loyal. To me it is like a spouse or child that is physically abused by someone yet the abused person still loves the abuser and refuses to see them for who they truly are. While I feel sorry for you being so controlled by an organization who treats you so poorly and you make wages that are embarrassing for the work you do and your responsibilities. It is sad you are so pathetic. How is that trailer living life style working out for you? Do you not have any gumption for a better life?

 

[700AW]

You need to add is it ok that ibt represented Flight Attendants and Dispatchers at Champion Air flew flights for NWA that otherwise would have been cancelled due to the strike.

Also why dont you add PFAA and ALPA too?

maybe because the flying was not struck work at the time and the IAM in the NWA case crossed to do the struck work. It's like AMFA saying that when they strike, that all of the other AMFA shops would honor their strike and stay home....LIKE THAT HAPPENED......

 

[pitguy]

I just fugured it out. "You can't fix stupid."

 

[robbedagain]

I do agree that all the all the IAM wants is the dues. They had to raise the dues for the ones who are stuck on the property after what they did to their "brothers and sisters" in the out cities

 

[T-bone]

Pitguy,
Apparently you are missing a few poignant facts here.
1 Amfa’s great selling point to the hoi polloi has always been--we don't need you. We don't need any other class; we can pull this train by ourselves.

Why when they finally have their chance to show this solo power do they immediately run for help to the people they excluded?

2 Excuse me but are they not the same peep's that sent a letter to NW management stating that if they would only take twice the pay cuts from the IAM people at NW that they would not have to take any from the mechanics.

Would you walk to support these people if you knew this and were NW IAM?

3 Unless it is specifically written in your contract that you can observe other union’s strikes, it would be illegal under federal law.





Also in response to more nonsense;

I do agree that all the all the IAM wants is the dues. They had to raise the dues for the ones who are stuck on the property after what they did to their "brothers and sisters" in the out cities

Is that why IAM dues at US are lower than amfa's or the ibt's?

Interestingly to note; even after the IAM informed it's people at NW not to go amfa for all the obvious reasons they went ahead and changed anyway.

Yes they lost their lodges and stike funds then chose to strike (man ya gotta think)--not to mention losing their credability and dignity when amfa negotiated away their scope.

And after all this the Mechanics who stood proud and strong with the IAM at USAirways came away with the most mechanics working and the best contract and scope even after two bankruptcy's!!!

Go figure!

 

[700UW]

He must have lost so many grievances as a manager that is why he hates the IAM because they probably made him look foolish to his bosses.

Another thing, why would a member of management be bashing the IAM and wanting the workers to vote ibt, just something to think about.

He does not have the rank and file's best interests at heart.

 

[robbedagain]

Pitguy,
Apparently you are missing a few poignant facts here.
1 Amfa’s great selling point to the hoi polloi has always been--we don't need you. We don't need any other class; we can pull this train by ourselves.

Why when they finally have their chance to show this solo power do they immediately run for help to the people they excluded?

2 Excuse me but are they not the same peep's that sent a letter to NW management stating that if they would only take twice the pay cuts from the IAM people at NW that they would not have to take any from the mechanics.

Would you walk to support these people if you knew this and were NW IAM?

3 Unless it is specifically written in your contract that you can observe other union’s strikes, it would be illegal under federal law.

Also in response to more nonsense;
Is that why IAM dues at US are lower than amfa's or the ibt's?

Interestingly to note; even after the IAM informed it's people at NW not to go amfa for all the obvious reasons they went ahead and changed anyway.

Yes they lost their lodges and stike funds then chose to strike (man ya gotta think)--not to mention losing their credability and dignity when amfa negotiated away their scope.

And after all this the Mechanics who stood proud and strong with the IAM at USAirways came away with the most mechanics working and the best contract and scope even after two bankruptcy's!!!

Go figure!

well it is a fact as my fellow friends that work in PHL are paying nearl;y 50.00 a pay check for the dues but yet they arent getting the normal; representation that they should. Gee I cant figure out why but hey it is onl;y the dues that the IAM wants

 

[700UW]

Why have you not run for office or done anything to ensure the members get the representation they deserve?

 

[gonzo]

I feel it is wrong of the IAM to want to continue to represent the mechanics and related when it appears all they really want is the dues money. Sort of like 'taxation without representation'. I find it unacceptable they are a scab union at Northwest.
(Note: I have made this poll and topic at Paul' request.)

I see the usual "thread busters" are out in force.

I agree that the IAM should not be representing(actually misrepresenting) the mechanic and related at the New USA. The policy of allowing them to SCAB is not part of the definition that a "trade unionist" would agree to. The words "trade unionist" is used very often by the IAM, to describe what they are. It just doesn't fit.

SCAB = trade unionist ????? 🙂