Kev3188
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Sure. I'm here to help. Pick one you like:
#VanillaISIS
#Teabillies
#Sendsnacks.
#VanillaISIS
#Teabillies
#Sendsnacks.
If the Oregon militiamen were Muslim or black, they'd probably be dead by now
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Surrounding an unoccupied building in a wildlife sanctuary that even the wildlife have been abandoning hardly meets the intent of sedition...Kev3188 said:
Try reading all the facts on how FWS have tried to squeeze out the ranch owners, and you start to see some abuses of power by the government.
Certainly, a backfire or prescribed burn don't qualify as arson unless the government was just looking for a way to retaliate.
If a private landowner had failed to maintain land in a way that caused damage to a neighboring property, there'd be a civil case for damages and liability, not a criminal proceeding. The only exception to that would be if it caused someone else's death, which might result in a manslaughter charge.
Kev3188
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The Hammonds have been flouting the law for years. These guys just co-opted that as an excuse to wage Yee-hawd.
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If you say so.townpete said:
You don't actually take these guys seriously, do you?
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How much toilet paper do you think these jokers brought with them?southwind said:
Kev3188
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Do you support what these guys are doing?
Its a much bigger issue than Oregon.
They are probably making a point over the Fed taking land from range owners, fair exchange is no robbery......I doubt its right....you won't win against the Fed, even when innocent.
Do you support the land grabs across the west by a BLM sometimes running rampant using EPA like tactics?
One of those farmers, maybe Bundy, lost land to a Harry Reid pipe dream for a
solar power venture, which, I'm sure he had his hand in.
Who would you trust more, those occupying that fed facility or the ones occupying the fed facility at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave?
They are probably making a point over the Fed taking land from range owners, fair exchange is no robbery......I doubt its right....you won't win against the Fed, even when innocent.
Do you support the land grabs across the west by a BLM sometimes running rampant using EPA like tactics?
One of those farmers, maybe Bundy, lost land to a Harry Reid pipe dream for a
solar power venture, which, I'm sure he had his hand in.
Who would you trust more, those occupying that fed facility or the ones occupying the fed facility at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave?
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That's an answer to a question I didn't ask.
Do you support what these guys are doing?
Do you support what these guys are doing?
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If those sorts of things were in play, I might be more amenable to listening. I would certainly support the 500!or so ranchers that had previously shown up in Burns to protest, even if I disagreed with their message.delldude said:
What we have instead is a family who for decades has flouted the law, had to deal with it (and have), and a bunch of other people co-opting it as some sort of "cause."
As for who I would trust more? Well, these guys stormed a bird sanctuary in one of the coldest places in Oregon... In January... And are now asking for snacks & socks both. Think I'll stick w/1600 Penn for now...
