If the Oregon militiamen were Muslim or black, they'd probably be dead by now

[cltrat]

But it still kind of hurts when an unarmed person gets killed by cops....doesn't it?

sure but I didn't have any desire to parade chanting "pigs in a blanket fry em like bacon"

 

[KCFlyer]

sure but I didn't have any desire to parade chanting "pigs in a blanket fry em like bacon"

 
Nope...but long before Jesse and Al and black lives matter got involved there was an awful lot of talk about thugs and just doing what the cops asked.  Unarmed black men were being killed long before Ferguson and Al and Jesse weren't involved.  Where was the outrage from you then? It's really hard to admit sometimes, but there ARE bad cops.  

 

[cltrat]

Nope...but long before Jesse and Al and black lives matter got involved there was an awful lot of talk about thugs and just doing what the cops asked.  Unarmed black men were being killed long before Ferguson and Al and Jesse weren't involved.  Where was the outrage from you then? It's really hard to admit sometimes, but there ARE bad cops.

I've never said there wasn't bad cops.there bad in all walks of life but when you react by overturing cars and looting burning and stealing from innocent people you lose any sympathy from me.

 

[KCFlyer]

I've never said there wasn't bad cops.there bad in all walks of life but when you react by overturing cars and looting burning and stealing from innocent people you lose any sympathy from me.

 
Up until Ferguson, there wasn't a lot of looting and burning.  Yet young black me were still killed by cops.  And nobody seemed to notice.  I guess at least they got your attention...of course, most of that attention is "if they just would have listened to the cop, this would never have happened.  Yes....white people are far better than black people.  A white guy who was part of a group that was "willing to die" for their cause reached into his jacket and was shot.  And white people didn't burn cities or loot stores.   I do remember a time when white kids would riot and loot because of the reception they got from police over their protests over something called "Vietnam".  Today, many of them are conservative gun owners who are disgusted that black people would riot. 

 

[Kev3188]

 
Cops didn't have to shoot the black kid running away from them.  Cops didn't have to shoot the 12 year old black kid playing with a water pistol.  Cops didn't have to choke (and kill) a fat black guy because he was selling loosies on a street corner.  Cops didn't have to shoot a black kid who tried speeding away from a traffic stop.  Cops didn't have to shoot a black suspect because they mistook their gun for a tazer.  BUT....the only difference is that in those cases, "if they would have just listened to the officer, this would never have happened". 

Nailed it.

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

If you aren't doing anything wrong, you will be fine. Just don't assault someone by smoking around them, because that could earn you a ride to the jail.

Then you have crossed the line and should have known better.

 

[townpete]

Nailed it.

 

If you aren't doing anything wrong, you will be fine. Just don't assault someone by smoking around them, because that could earn you a ride to the jail.

Then you have crossed the line and should have known better.

 
Oooh the liberal tears are off the hook tonight...lol
 

 

[Kev3188]

Nope, no tears for Finicum; he knew /exactly/ what he was doing.

If only he had done what he was told, right?

 

[townpete]

 

[townpete]

From his daughters facebook post:
 

 
ALRIGHT, IT'S TIME TO MAKE SOMETHINGS I'VE SEEN CLEAR!
First of all...

In the FBI video, I want to point out that LaVoy actually swerved to avoid a collision with the Fedcoats. He was obviously going at a high rate of speed, and so much so, that he couldn't break in time. As a matter of FACT, you can clearly see him hit the breaks all the way up until the point he plowed into the snow. So he was trying to stop! He couldn't so he AVOIDED hitting the fedcoat bastard, MURDERERS! During this situation, he CLEARLY was not trying to harm anyone, and that was made clear when he came out with his hands up.

 
Let me make one thing clear to you all!
 
Eyewitness accounts say Mr. Finicum was unarmed at the time as he usually was when going to town meetings. If LaVoy intended on initiating a gun battle, he most likely would have come out guns blazing, NOT WITH HIS HAND AS HIGH UP IN THE DAMN AIR AS HE POSSIBLY COULD HAVE HAD THEM!
 
Law enforcement shoot first and then use the victims motions to themselves being shot on video to LIE and make it seem like they were reaching for something prior to being shot! They also plant weapons on people to give themselves justification.
 
LaVoy was murdered in cold blood and for that I say revenge is a dish best served cold.
To those of you who say he was reaching for a weapon, this is all I have to say to you....

 

[KCFlyer]

 
If he had just listened to what the cops were saying and kept his hands up, this would never have happened. 

 

[townpete]

 
If he had just listened to what the cops were saying and kept his hands up, this would never have happened. 

 
Didn't he?

 

[KCFlyer]

 
Didn't he?

 
Nope.. his hands came down to his waist and into his coat.  Watch the video.

 

[townpete]

 
Nope.. his hands came down to his waist and into his coat.  Watch the video.

 
I did, funny how you become predictably oblivious to video evidence when the victim is black.

 

[Dog Wonder]

If you are right handed pulling a gun from the inside of your jacket, what side would it be on?