IAM Welcomes America West Maintenance Instructors

[EricLv2Fish]

700UW

If you think the IAM is doing any favors for the West Instructors, well...let's just put it this way...they are not convinced and wish they AT LEAST HAD A CHOICE. I've talked to many of them and they are not happy in the least. Hopefully there will be a brighter end to the story for them. They are a great bunch of guys and gals!

 

[EricLv2Fish]

The West instructors really feel screwed. Course the unknown tends to cause apprehension, so hopefully when the cards a laid out it won't be as bad as they anticipate. Let's hope so.

 

[320tech]

Wrong,

The IAM/US CBA has the IAMNPF for fleet service.

The IAM/US CBA for Mechanic and Related has a 3% DCP plus a 401K match.

The IAM/US CBA for the Maintenance Training Specialists has the IAMNPF.

The IAM is wanting to negotiate the IAMPF for the M&R as soon as the representation dispute is resolved and they all ready had initial discussion with the company on it last year.

Once again, don't let the facts get in your way.

don't forget to mention that your 401k is only matched at 3% compared to the teamsters 50 cents on the dollar up to 6% don't let your facts get in the way bud!

 

[delldude]

The West instructors really feel screwed. Course the unknown tends to cause apprehension, so hopefully when the cards a laid out it won't be as bad as they anticipate. Let's hope so.

send your complaints to NMB as it seems at this point they

are the ones who decided......

funny now,with this in mind...NMB leans IAM now....so will

it be the same for the rest of the decisions??

remember...its already documented in several forums.....

Fred Said.....and Fred Never Lies...

 

[BeenThereDoneThat]

IAM Welcomes America West Maintenance Instructors
The National Mediation Board has extended the IAM’s certification for US Airways Maintenance Training Specialists to cover Maintenance Instructors from the former America West Airlines.

Being a "right to work state," how can the Maintenance Training Specialists in Phoenix be made to join the IAM?
Would it not be correct to say that they have a choice as to "join" the IAM or "not join" and just pay their fair share (dues)?

 

[BeenThereDoneThat]

The West instructors really feel screwed. Course the unknown tends to cause apprehension, so hopefully when the cards a laid out it won't be as bad as they anticipate. Let's hope so.

Rumor has it that the M/Ts were herded into a room with the IAM guys and HR, told that they had to "sign up" with the IAM or be subject to dismissal. One individual supposedly took a $6K income loss, loss of vacation time and loss of accrued sick time. As I said, that is the rumor going around.

Why would there not be a save pay clause that in effect freezes the pay until the individual reaches the union top out scale? That is what happened when the IBT came in for the maitenance side of the house. Nobody should have to lose pay just because there is a union now, where there was none before! Otherwise, no wonder the M/Ts would feel :mf_boff:

 

[delldude]

Being a "right to work state," how can the Maintenance Training Specialists in Phoenix be made to join the IAM?
Would it not be correct to say that they have a choice as to "join" the IAM or "not join" and just pay their fair share (dues)?

real easy....they're under the railway labor act ......not NLRB rules.

 

[Dog Wonder]

The West instructors really feel screwed. Course the unknown tends to cause apprehension, so hopefully when the cards a laid out it won't be as bad as they anticipate.

Maybe when they lay the cards out some cheese can be served with the whine.

 

[EricLv2Fish]

Maybe when they lay the cards out some cheese can be served with the whine.

Crappy reply Dog. You can do better than that!

 

[brown]

real easy....they're under the railway labor act ......not NLRB rules.

12:49am!!!!!!! I see this was your ninth post today!!!! And of course after 700UW you were right in there, DUDE anything else going on in your wonderful life?

 

[700UW]

12:49am!!!!!!! I see this was your ninth post today!!!! And of course after 700UW you were right in there, DUDE anything else going on in your wonderful life?

Do you have anything better then to obsess over what Dell and I post and do with our time?

Apparently not.

 

[delldude]

12:49am!!!!!!! I see this was your ninth post today!!!! And of course after 700UW you were right in there, DUDE anything else going on in your wonderful life?

thanks for the timely reminder...guess i'm slacking off a bit.promise to try and post more often.

see your checking and counting my postings....so who's got the problem?

 

[openview]

don't forget to mention that your 401k is only matched at 3% compared to the teamsters 50 cents on the dollar up to 6% don't let your facts get in the way bud!

doesn't 50c on the dollar up to 6% equal 3%?

 

[700AW]

as stated by Brutally (dis)honest
"One thing that can be said that after 2 bankruptcies at usairways the company still puts a 2% match into the 401K, plus an additional 3% cash contribution. Call it what you want but the contract at AW doesnt have as much with no bankruptcies."

I guess they left out of the IAM talking points, the merits of the one and only BK we had in the early 90's that after years of a mandated ESOP, eployee's that had put in money lost it all in the BK, many employees had alot of cash go flying out of there retirement future.
Again using a yearly income that might cover most techs at the new U, say 40k per year


$40,000x 3%=1200.00, not bad for free but that is 60 cents an hour, not much compared to a top out pay over 20 bucks an hour

same 40,000 employee contributions are matched up to 6 %, so on an employees 6% of 40,000x6%=2400, there by reducing his tax payments and deferring taxes on it and relative gains until retirement, plus the 50% match, you add another 1200 to it and it is yours to take with you to another job.

so right now we know the facts to be

that the IAMNPF are for ramp and instructors,
That the IAM states they conducted talks with the company, but still there is no current IAMNPF for M&R
And that anything said in a union meeting is irrefutable evidence that something is true,

 

[700UW]

It was not a "union meeting" it was a meeting with the District President, GLR, all the GCs and the Grievance Committee Chairman from all of the US/East System, the meeting was held in CLT in Early November.

And you can check with the company as other posters have done on here that there were initial discussions with Vice President of Labor Everett Al Hemenway on the issuse.