How can Christians support Trump?

[KCFlyer]

And how does Bill and Hillary?

Which Christian groups are supporting Bill and Hillary? I seem to recall them being rather upset at Bills philandering. But he's still married to his first wife...they have tossed their support behind the guy who is on his third, after cheating on his first two.

 

[KCFlyer]

I'd guess that Hillary and the lefts support of abortion and gay marriage overcomes Trumps short comings to Christians

The Christian right has supported republicans for the past 36 years. We have had a republican president half of them. What do they have to show for it?

 

[KCFlyer]

This is just what I'm talking about Hypocritical X. You tear down Trump for some nasty "He Man" language secretly recorded (not in public office) and held back for 11 years, until election time. But you say NOTHING about Hildabeast and Billdo actual CRIMES while serving in the highest office in the land. Simply incredulous!!! Not only that, the Clinton minions actually disparage Christianity. You say nothing but " How can anyone of faith support Trump?
Your kidding right? Are you attending the Church of 666? You need a long talk and possibly a 30 day healing session with a real pastor. Good lord.

I think if you'll read between the lines that xUT believes that "faith" ought to be kept out of politics.

 

[Insp4]

well, here's what our Democratic First Lady has to say about it!

 

[KCFlyer]

well, here's what our Democratic First Lady has to say about it!

Don't look now, but Obama's not running. Neither is Bill. Just Hillary and that rich guy whose wealth makes it possible for him to grab her by the Pu-sy. And...Obama never got the Christian vote either. People of faith would not tolerate such a person.

 

[delldude]

Don't look now, but Obama's not running. Neither is Bill. Just Hillary and that rich guy whose wealth makes it possible for him to grab her by the Pu-sy. And...Obama never got the Christian vote either. People of faith would not tolerate such a person.

Both of their legacies are running...like it or not.

 

[Insp4]

Can Trump be telling the true? Let's look at it. http://usherald.com/breaking-irrefu...ape-accused-closely-tied-clinton-foundation/#

 

[NewHampshire Black Bears]

WHAT........IS.....SO........HARD........ABOUT.......ANSWERING........THE.....FOLLOWING.....QUESTION ? ........" HOW CAN CHRISTIANS SUPPORT T-RUMP " xUT is NOT asking what the price of baloney is at walmart ! xUT is NOT asking about the cost of a subway token in NYC ! xUT is NOT asking what color 'drawers' the dutchess of Cambridge is wearing today ! SIMPLY ANSWER THE FRIGGIN' QUESTION ! IF you were in a court room on the witness stand and asked a clear simple question by either lawyer, you WOULD answer the stated question, OR be held in Contempt of court. " GOT IT " ????????? OK " X ", here's my answer. They can support the MORON, as long as THEY ARE guilty of HYPOCRACY ! Memo to all you TRUMP(eteers) : Get your PROZAC EARLY, to Avoid Massive Long Lines !!

 

[KCFlyer]

Both of their legacies are running...like it or not.

That's true...but Bill never got the Christian vote. Gore didn't have the Christian vote, I guess in part because he associated with an adulterer. Kerry didn't have the Christians behind him, mostly because of his stance wasn't "pro life" enough for them. But they support Trump mostly because of the supreme court thing and the impact it will have on abortion. Except that they really aren't sure where he is on abortion...he's on record of saying he's pro choice, but what he's said in the past doesn't matter...it's what he says now and he's said the magic words with a twist...let's make it a criminal offense for a woman to GET an abortion. There's some red meat for the suck...I mean flock.

But..the Christian voters will give him a pass because what he said was "just locker room talk" and was 11 years ago (when he was 59)...and that adultery thing? Times unfortunately change....and Jesus teaches us to forgive. While you all are eagerly awaiting some wikileaks bombshells about emails, it wouldn't surprise me if proof that Trump paid for a womans abortion comes out about the same time.

And I don't care how "cool" it makes me look, there is no way in hell that I would refer to my daughter as a "piece of a-s on a national radio show. She IS quite attractive, but you gotta draw a line on THOSE kind of family values somewhere. I mean, I didn't like W, but at least the man DID read a bible. And both his daughters were pretty hot, but he didn't talk about them being a "piece of a-s"...So it was easy to see why Bush got support from the Christian groups. But Trump? It's a bit harder to understand.

In fact, I haven't seen anybody on the right give a reason why Christian Values voters support Trump...just a lot of stuff about Bill, Hillary and Michelle Obama - people who never did, nor never will get their support, but no explanation about why they give it to Trump. I'd have more respect for these "Godly men" if they would say "you know -pray for change in America because we can't endorse any of the candidates that are running".

 

[delldude]

That's true...but Bill never got the Christian vote. Gore didn't have the Christian vote, I guess in part because he associated with an adulterer. Kerry didn't have the Christians behind him, mostly because of his stance wasn't "pro life" enough for them. But they support Trump mostly because of the supreme court thing and the impact it will have on abortion. Except that they really aren't sure where he is on abortion...he's on record of saying he's pro choice, but what he's said in the past doesn't matter...it's what he says now and he's said the magic words with a twist...let's make it a criminal offense for a woman to GET an abortion. There's some red meat for the suck...I mean flock.

But..the Christian voters will give him a pass because what he said was "just locker room talk" and was 11 years ago (when he was 59)...and that adultery thing? Times unfortunately change....and Jesus teaches us to forgive. While you all are eagerly awaiting some wikileaks bombshells about emails, it wouldn't surprise me if proof that Trump paid for a womans abortion comes out about the same time.

And I don't care how "cool" it makes me look, there is no way in hell that I would refer to my daughter as a "piece of a-s on a national radio show. She IS quite attractive, but you gotta draw a line on THOSE kind of family values somewhere. I mean, I didn't like W, but at least the man DID read a bible. And both his daughters were pretty hot, but he didn't talk about them being a "piece of a-s"...So it was easy to see why Bush got support from the Christian groups. But Trump? It's a bit harder to understand.

In fact, I haven't seen anybody on the right give a reason why Christian Values voters support Trump...just a lot of stuff about Bill, Hillary and Michelle Obama - people who never did, nor never will get their support, but no explanation about why they give it to Trump. I'd have more respect for these "Godly men" if they would say "you know -pray for change in America because we can't endorse any of the candidates that are running".

Dude, you missed the moon by a light year.

Most Christians do not approve of these things regarding Trump.

Trump is a far better choice than Clinton.....its that simple.

SCOTUS will go hard left with restrictions of the first, second, and fourth amendments at a minimum.

Under Obama FCC is already trying to restrict freedom of speech.

What about hate speech and the first?

Under Obama attacks limiting freedom of religion are already here.

Obama would have gone long and far with the second if they hadn't lost the houses.

Obama has already attacked the fourth....

It will only morph larger with Hillary.

 

[KCFlyer]

Dude, you missed the moon by a light year.

Most Christians do not approve of these things regarding Trump.

Trump is a far better choice than Clinton.....its that simple.

SCOTUS will go hard left with restrictions of the first, second, and fourth amendments at a minimum.

Under Obama FCC is already trying to restrict freedom of speech.

What about hate speech and the first?

Under Obama attacks limiting freedom of religion are already here.

Obama would have gone long and far with the second if they hadn't lost the houses.

Obama has already attacked the fourth....

It will only morph larger with Hillary.

Sorry...I haven't missed anything. While Christians who can think for themselves can approve or not approve of Trumps actions. But I pointed out my North Carolina example...a woman who was torn...but her decision was made because Trump had the support of "godly men" like Franklin Graham. She was looking for guidance from church leaders - and they are guiding her to a man that she was having personal doubts about. Had they not been there, she might have had to stop and think about her positions and how each candidate fit MOST of those - maybe it's Johnson or Stein. But Trump pandered to the religious groups by not just opposing abortion, but proposing charging the woman getting an abortion with a crime....even though just a few years ago he said he was "pro choice". Back when Kerry changed a position, the right played it up as "flip flopping" and it was painted as a bad thing. Today they look at Trump saying it and justify it with "people can change".

As far as your concerns on the amendments - George W Bush got the fourth amendment pretty much repealed 15 years ago and he did it in 3 days from introduction to passage. So the 4th was pretty much shredded. BAck when that was happening, people like you who are concerned about it today were saying 'if you haven't done anything wrong, you don't have anything to worry about". And I was called (not by you....you have skills at debate) a terrorist supporting libtard. The second is still intact...and as a matter of fact, despite all the concerns that "Obama is going to take your guns", there are MORE guns - including the nonautomatic automatic weapons then there ever has been. Gun shop owers might be in the "amen corner" with their customers talking about how great Trump is - but they most likely will pull the lever for Hillary - it's better for business.

As for Trump being a far better choice. Maybe so. But my dying labrador retriever is a better choice than Trump, so that's not saying much. And with all that said - you still haven't addressed the original question - if Christian values are so important, how can Christians support a candidate who lacks them as badly as Trump does?

 

[delldude]

It's not my place to judge.

Only to choose.

Judge not, lest ye be judged.

 

[KCFlyer]

It's not my place to judge.

Only to choose.

Judge not, lest ye be judged.

Unfortunately, a large portion of "your side" DO tend to judge. About abortion. About homosexuality. About adultery. Yet they seem to be rather forgiving about Trump. Why is that?

 

[xUT]

WHAT........IS.....SO........HARD........ABOUT.......ANSWERING........THE.....FOLLOWING.....QUESTION ? ........" HOW CAN CHRISTIANS SUPPORT T-RUMP " xUT is NOT asking what the price of baloney is at walmart ! xUT is NOT asking about the cost of a subway token in NYC ! xUT is NOT asking what color 'drawers' the dutchess of Cambridge is wearing today ! SIMPLY ANSWER THE FRIGGIN' QUESTION ! IF you were in a court room on the witness stand and asked a clear simple question by either lawyer, you WOULD answer the stated question, OR be held in Contempt of court. " GOT IT " ????????? OK " X ", here's my answer. They can support the MORON, as long as THEY ARE guilty of HYPOCRACY ! Memo to all you TRUMP(eteers) : Get your PROZAC EARLY, to Avoid Massive Long Lines !!

You do know that this thread:
How can Christians support Trump?
could easily be changed to:
How can Christians support Hillery?
They both suck.

 

[EastUS1]

I was just wondering how this could be true.
I know there are a few other Christians here, so please share your theological reasoning for supporting Trump.
Try to keep it clean...

Evangelical Christians Cannot Excuse Donald Trump’s Words



How can evangelical Christians support Trump?



Being a Christian, I wonder how anyone of faith can support him.
Please enlighten us.

B) xUT

My "religion" is that of being an American, and our options are Trump or complete Treason/hillary....period. While such as yourself whine over meaningless, childish "feelings" nonsense, our enemies laugh themselves to sleep at night...and do "little" things like launch deadly missiles at our ships because of our current weakness/spineless "government"/etc. Whatever religious fantasies anyone has, well...many, many millions of people actually exist that want ourselves and our nation destroyed. GROW UP!