mancityfan
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On 8/23/2002 11:36:26 PM
To you mancityfan I apologize, I came to pick a fight as you can tell. We are trying so hard everyday to prove we are worth what we have fought for, and it's tearing us up that we can't save this company with just hard work. We all gave to save this company for so long, and it was more profitable than any other airline, and then they screwed us so bad. This is where I want to be and this is what I am good at doing, but they don't care. Now all of us are years older, and still picking up the pieces. Now you guys want us to make a deal with these same people, jesus, I could "gut" them where they stand. We are so tired of being trampled, some of the best I knew are just walking shells anymore. I just don't know if its worth saving, I'm sorry.
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No need to apologize to me!!! If you had been on here more often, you would already know I am the LAST person you need to apologize to. However, thank you for your respect. AS for the "THEM" in your post, I think "THEY" will not be here very shortly! We (ALPA) have been promised that the new CEO WILL NOT be cming from inside the company, and that R.D. and A.S. will be leaving shortly after the new CEO is announced (which might even be this weekend from what I hear! 🙂)
As for feeling gutted, I know what you are talking about! I gave tens of thousands of dollars for ESOP stock that was once worth $170K, and is now worth about $5K! I paid $100K for my flight training, and only just finished paying it off last year WITH MY RETRO PAY (how ironic!). I finally got a non-concessionary contract after giving up 23.7% and receiving an inflation adjustment for the years of the ESOP (Even Studdert agrees that the pilot contract was NOT excessive, as it was not even beating inflation!!), and I made Captain the month C2K kicked in! I had finally made it! I was able to buy a house at age 35, we could "afford" another child, and we even splurged on a Minivan when my airport car (my Father-in-Law's 90 Corsica) finally died. However, I still get to drive the 94 Accord to the airport..no new car for the Tokyo bus stop!!
I guess what I am trying to relate is there is more than enough bitterness to go around, and I could be (and have been) just as angry and outspoken as you about it all. However, if ANYTHING is going to change at UAL, it is going to have to come from the ground up...EMPLOYEES FIRST! The mgmt of this airline does not have to deal with all the sh!t that hits the fan at ORD when the wx goes down! The mgmt of this airline are the same people who after my aircraft was sitting out at the runway at IND for 1:30 gave my takoff slot to a FERRY from the INDMM hangar to ORD, even though I had 107 souls on board!! THAT particular piece of "management" cost all 107 of us another two hours on the ground at IND, a return to the gate, and more than a few angry passengers!! Believe me, each employee group has its cross to bear, and you guys may well have more than most. However, as I said, if ANYTHING is going to get better at UAL, it is going to take a "rallying around the flag" of whomever gets the unenviable task of fixing what ails us. I don't mind giving to keep my job, secure a future for my wife and kids and keep my a/c cold in my 94 Accord! Would I give it to the idiots who have created this mess? NO WAY! But they will not be here and we will. I am giving it for myself and the other 84,000 of us who "love the smell of (kerosene) in the morning"!!
Take care, pop a cold brew and hug the missus! This too shall pass!
All the best,
mancityfan