Forbes lists "Surprising Salaries"

[desertfox]

Data is form U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics....


5 Jobs with Surprisingly High Salaries

Flight Attendants
Top 10% earn $102,660 a year
Average annual salary: $62,880

Farm, Ranch and Other Agricultural Managers
Top 10% earn $103,660 a year
Average annual salary: $61,030

Gaming Managers
Top 10% earn $106,220 a year
Average annual salary: $69,600

Air Traffic Controllers
Top 10% earn $141,860
Average annual salary: $107,780

Database Administrator
Top 10% earn $106,860 a year
Average annual salary: $70,260

 

[AAStew]

Flight attendants who are earning that much are flying at least 120-125 hours aloft per month. Not very sustainable, and not condusive to having a life beyond wearing our pretty blue uniform.

 

[youbetcha]

Flight attendants who are earning that much are flying at least 120-125 hours aloft per month. Not very sustainable, and not condusive to having a life beyond wearing our pretty blue uniform.

My guess is more like 140 hours plus and/or a second job...like a TT service. On International. Keep in mind, 140 flight hours a month is 2 full time months in one. Other than a TT service owner, that is someone living waay beyond their means with maximum days on and the bare minimum of days off.

 

[eolesen]

If it's not sustainable, then how are the top 10% managing to do it?... Consistently?...

If this included total compensation and benefits, it's a little more believable.

 

[kirkpatrick]

Flight Attendants
Top 10% earn $102,660 a year
Average annual salary: $62,880

I find that hard to believe. At AA, top of scale, international rates, it would take over 155 hrs per month average to yield that much. "Average annual salary $62,880?" That would be 96.8 hrs/mo for the average FA at international rates.

I think they must be figuring in the cost of benefits.

MK

 

[frontline]

Wow, APFA is going to HATE this story.

 

[nbmcg01]

Wow, APFA is going to HATE this story.

What they fail to mention is the fact that benefit costs are also included. These figures have traditionally included corporate costs such as hotel rooms. Very misleading.

In 1986 (just after covered wagons) Carl Ichan sent out a letter to TWA frequent flyers about the greedy f/as and their $50,000 a year salaries. I promptly sent him a copy of my W2s and a bill for $40,000 for the previous 2 years. It was admitted that they included the cost of benefits and such "incidentals" as our overnight hotel and meal costs.

 

[coldplay]

Wow, APFA is going to HATE this story.

especially when it's found out that the 10% this article is talking about are the APFA national Officers and the perpetually trip-removed cronies of theirs who haven't set foot inside a plane as a working crew member for the past 20 years.
so yes, I believe that the average salary of THOSE "flight attendants" is upwards of $65K/yr. Not bad if your only job is to sign Letters of Agreements with Management.

 

[FrequentFlierCA]

Not bad if your only job is to sign Letters of Agreements with Management.

Or encourage insubordination of your fellow flight attendants by having them call on executives to resign.

It strikes me as hypocritical for them to pass judgment on management when they are merely management of a different kind making salaries like this.

 

[iluvaa]

Or encourage insubordination of your fellow flight attendants by having them call on executives to resign.

It strikes me as hypocritical for them to pass judgment on management when they are merely management of a different kind making salaries like this.

Didnt think I would ever agree with you but your right the TWU worthless officers make about 160000 for ATD officers and 230000 for jimmy (hitler) little. They work to keep there pay and benifits not ours

 

[Mach85ER]

If it's not sustainable, then how are the top 10% managing to do it?... Consistently?...

If this included total compensation and benefits, it's a little more believable.

Most likely with comp and bennies.

The article also mentioned that those in the top bracket are corporate FA's. On the APA board, one furloughed pilot mentioned their corporate operation pays contract FA's $400/day plus expenses. A three week trip adds up fast, and no doubt the good ones are in demand.

On the airline side, some make that with bennies. I've watched them work. Mon-Tue-Wed go to Europe, 24 hours off, Thu-Fri-Sat go to Europe, Sunday off. Repeat as necessary. On the pilot end, just doing one of those trips back-to-back tells me an early death is highly likely doing that schedule long term. No doubt some idiot will chime in with, "You're only flying 38 hours in a week, try working 40 like the real world"

 

[PHL]

The DB Admin salaries don't surprise me at all. Most DBA's that I know earn more. It's a skilled technology job that is typically compensated by large corporations. Contract positions in the Northeast (PHL/NYC/BOS) that I know of earn in the $80-$100/hr range.

The FAA ATC average salaries will drop dramatically over the years. The large bulk of the current staff were hired in 1982 after Reagan fired the then striking workforce. Many of those hires are retiring. Newbies don't come near that number, and won't for many years.

 

[eolesen]

DBA's are waaaaay off -- compensation surveys I've been getting show base pay averaging $85K for MSSQL and $110K for Orafice, and they've got the majority of the market. The guys doing MySQL and some of the lower end platforms are only bringing in $50-65K, so that's where the average is getting watered down.