facility closures or consolidation

I've got 96 seniority. You think I'm safe? :lol: :lol:

Ya know what, I'm ready for life after aviation. I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired. Midnight shift with crappy days off has gotten old real fast.


Current Job Security date is 9/24/1998...you are safe.

The reason MCIE will be closed is because of job security clause loopholes and the fact that most of them with job security will NOT re-locate.

900-1000 easy targeted heads
 
Current Job Security date is 9/24/1998...you are safe.

The reason MCIE will be closed is because of job security clause loopholes and the fact that most of them with job security will NOT re-locate.

900-1000 easy targeted heads

12 years of seniority and I'll be at the bottom of the seniority list. Great, 20 more years of midnights. :lol: :lol:
 
The thing to remember here is that AA is so accustomed to having the TWU leadership force feed us our contracts AND layoff as a result. The difference this time is that they don't have a contract yet to add the layoffs to yet.
 
I've got 96 seniority. You think I'm safe? :lol: :lol:

Ya know what, I'm ready for life after aviation. I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired. Midnight shift with crappy days off has gotten old real fast.
I certainly hope you join us on the outside real soon. You'll find that life is much better out here in the real world. Good luck.
 
What's to stop Lil' Jimmy from accepting it 'on our behalf' and the company going forward with the layoff anyway? :blink:

Little Jimmy can't accept "on behalf" until there has been a membership vote on the contract/offer, as I understand it - after the initial vote, he can "accept on behalf.

Remember - the International wanted us to vote on the offer presented but the committee deep-sixed it.
 
My thought, is I think they are going to close St. Louis..., ouch ....


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A A S,

Because we have a few of our regular AA posters based in STL, I really didn't want to "go there"

Having said that, AND the fact that you've already broached the subject, YES I feel that very(sadly) strongly.
 
Form 8-K for AMR CORP


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22-May-2008

Change in Directors or Principal Officers, Financial Statements and Exhibits



Item 5.02 Departure of Directors or Certain Officers; Election of Directors; Appointment of Certain Officers; Compensatory Arrangements of Certain Officers
The Compensation Committee of the Board of Directors of AMR Corporation conducted its annual review of compensation for its principal executive officer, principal financial officer and other named executive officers (the "named executive officers") with its compensation consultants at its May 20, 2008 meeting. At that meeting, the Compensation Committee approved the following compensation items for the named executive officers effective May 20, 2008:

1. Grants of stock-settled stock appreciation rights ("SSARs") pursuant to the terms and conditions of the form Stock Appreciation Right Agreement ("SAR Agreement"), which is attached as Exhibit 99.1 to this Form 8-K. SSARs are contractual rights to receive shares of our common stock upon their exercise. The SSARs are exerciseable for ten years from the date of grant and generally vest in 20% increments over five years. An attachment to the form SAR Agreement notes the stock-settled stock appreciation rights granted to the named executive officers.

2. Grants of deferred shares pursuant to the terms and conditions of the form Deferred Share Award Agreement for 2008 ("Deferred Share Agreement"), which is attached as Exhibit 99.2 to this Form 8-K. These are contractual rights to receive shares of our common stock, which vest on the third anniversary of the grant date. An attachment to the form Deferred Share Agreement notes the deferred share grants to the named executive officers.

3. Grants of performance shares pursuant to the form of Performance Share Agreement ("Performance Share Agreement") under the 2008 - 2010 Performance Share Plan for Officers and Key Employees ("Performance Share Plan"). These are contractual rights to receive shares of our common stock that vest depending upon achievement of performance measures described in the Performance Share Plan. The form of the Performance Share Agreement and the Performance Share Plan are attached as Exhibit 99.3 to this Form 8-K, and an attachment to the form Performance Share Agreement notes the performance share grants to the named executive officers.

4. A grant of 58,000 career performance shares to Gerard J. Arpey pursuant to the terms and conditions of the Career Performance Shares, Deferred Stock Award Agreement between the Company and Mr. Arpey, dated as of July 25, 2005, as amended. These are contractual rights to receive shares of our common stock that vest generally in 2015 depending upon achievement of performance measures described in that agreement.





Item 9.01 Financial Statements and Exhibits
© Exhibits

Exhibit 99.1 Form of Stock Appreciation Right Agreement (with awards to the named executive officers noted)

Exhibit 99.2 Form of 2008 Deferred Share Award Agreement (with awards to the named executive officers noted)

Exhibit 99.3 Form of Performance Share Agreement under the 2008 - 2010 Performance Share Plan for Officers and Key Employees and the 2008-2010 Performance Share Plan for Officers and Key Employees


(with awards to the named executive officers noted)




Current Job Security date is 9/24/1998...you are safe.

The reason MCIE will be closed is because of job security clause loopholes and the fact that most of them with job security will NOT re-locate.

900-1000 easy targeted heads
Agreed on MCIE.
Job security date 9/24/98 ?
Is there a such thing as "security date" ?
Mine was */**/98 before the layoffs. At that time was a secure date.
Would the 9/24/98 be the adjusted date after layoffs were brought back, cause they cut back into the early 98's in 03' correct ?
Mine has been adjusted to 99' since recalled :down:
A/C cleaner list was exhuasted in AFW and TUL.
Approx 40-50% declined recall correct?.
So cutting headcount 1-2000 means cutting into even higher senior employees than in 03' ?
 
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A A S,

Because we have a few of our regular AA posters based in STL, I really didn't want to "go there"

Having said that, AND the fact that you've already broached the subject, YES I feel that very(sadly) strongly.
Not sure how many are left there. I know some were waiting for to recall to STL ..., We shall see.
 
Not sure how many are left there. I know some were waiting for to recall to STL ..., We shall see.

Not sure how many of what are left there? Real AA employees? Just FYI, as far as f/as are concerned at the time most of them were furloughed, the former TW f/as were drawing paychecks that said AMR Corporation on them, and they were paying dues to the APFA. I think that legally that makes them AA employees. Don't you?

Ditto for all the gate agents, rampers, mechanics. They are all AA employees.

As far as closing STL. I wouldn't bet on it. There is a lot of business there. The station makes money. NHBB, since you are convinced that BOS is perfect, just thought you might like to know that one of the current rumors is that the f/a base at BOS is being closed. After all, they are a smaller base than SLT. :shock:
 

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