Executive Consultant?

[High Speed Steel]

Hiring Abernathy/Associates for leadership is completely different subject than hiring the McCormick group to do AMFA's administration work.

Can you explain the staffing requirements under the McCormick group? McCormick states he has 10 full time employees assigned to manage amfa's business. He also goes on to explain that as the numbers increase under amfa that his administrative cost's go up, as well as the need to adjust staffing requirements under the McCormick group.

It appears that McCormick has more control over the amfa than I had initially realized. Is amfa actually a subsidiary of the McCormick group? They seem to be very dependant upon this Real Estate Tycoon....!!!!!!!!!!

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amfa: The YUGO of the labor movement
Where bargaining means YOU GO....!

 

[j7915]

I totally agree. I don't want my dues going to a group pushing an agenda for their personal beliefs to be normalized by a political process. I do not want to be told by my union how to vote or what to believe, that's my personel decision. The twu tries to tell members how to vote, when they won't even let its own members vote on International officers.

If you want to talk racism, bigotry, and bias cio, look no further than your 514 Kremlin on Pine St. You won't even let twu members and officers from other locals into your private 514 union membership meetings. I'm also sure that I could find more than a few "redneck muthers" there in 514 land without looking too hard.


Punks, Drunks, Cowards, Fuctional Illiterates, and Felons. The twu's finest.

NO VOTE? NO PEACE!!!!

Hackman, are you so weak that you can't resist suggestions? You seem to not understand the political process very well. When any organization, in this case the TWU, makes suggestions as to whom to vote for, that indicates that they can work with that elected official.

Which means that when elected he may lean towards his supporters.

Just make up your mind, what is more important to you: the right to have a union, OT, etc. Or the holy trinity: guns, pro-life and preachers dictating government policy. Funny thing is that the Afghan Taliban agrees with you on the later two issues.

 

[twuer]

Hey J,

These amfa boys are so used to following their amfa leader(s) (Delle AND McCormick) and doing what they suggest that they have become brainwashed and are no longer able to think for themselves!!

It's sad really, grown med reduced to puppets!

 

[Hackman]

Hackman, are you so weak that you can't resist suggestions? You seem to not understand the political process very well. When any organization, in this case the TWU, makes suggestions as to whom to vote for, that indicates that they can work with that elected official.

Which means that when elected he may lean towards his supporters.

Just make up your mind, what is more important to you: the right to have a union, OT, etc. Or the holy trinity: guns, pro-life and preachers dictating government policy. Funny thing is that the Afghan Taliban agrees with you on the later two issues.

I'm sorry you misunderstand me. Suggestions are not what the twu does, they beat you over the head with afl-cio left-wing propaganda. Suggestions?....pluleeze. If you believe that then you are the one thats weak my friend. I am not paying for that which I do not believe in. However, with the twu you have no choice. They use my money without my consent for causes and agendas I do not believe in. They are a union, and a very sorry one at that. They are failing miserably at representing my intrests at the workplace, which is where they should be fighting, but they refuse to take on this company.

Furthermore; I am not discussing politics with someone I don't know. So I guess I will end the political discussions with you right here.

I take offense to you comparing my beliefs, which you know nothing about, to the Afghan Taliban. So I guess I'll compare yours to Boy George? Touche'.

Punks, Drunks, Cowards, Functional Illiterates, and Felons. The twu's finest.

NO VOTE? NO PEACE!!!!

 

[Hackman]

Hey J,

These amfa boys are so used to following their amfa leader(s) (Delle AND McCormick) and doing what they suggest that they have become brainwashed and are no longer able to think for themselves!!

It's sad really, grown med reduced to puppets!

Delle and McCormick do not try to tell me how to vote or what to believe, clueless. If you want a company puppet and a brainwashed fool, look to your twu atd leader, little jimmy. I just read how he likes the new leader of HR. It figures. I wonder if he's the one that told little jimmy that we were going into Chapter 7 BK last year? :blink:



Punks, Drunks, Cowards, Functional Illiterates, and Felons. The twu's finest.

NO VOTE? NO PEACE!!!!

 

[High Speed Steel]

..........................Peaka-boooooooo......say Cheeseburger........... 😛

Peaka-boooo

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amfa: The YUGO of the labor movement
Where bargaining means YOU GO....!

 

[scab scraper]

hey,hey SCABBERS 🙂 now don't read this "nufawredi" you either inman......
WHO CARES what you read & who gave you the clue to scroll down ? yeah you're a real whiz are'nt you .....boy i'll show him...oooooooeeee!!! SCAB!!!!!!!!!!!!
that's what i do with dAAve/booby O/rusty/BUCK!!!!!! yeah,yeah,
O buckhead says 20yrs of give backs well, amfa(PUKE) SCABS we've been puttin up with your BS for 20yrs so nah,nah we're even.
you amfa (PUKE) guys can't even answer a simple ? about anything. i sit here & read ?'s from people & all you wnna do is dance around the topic & talk about everything but the issue put forth to you. it's the same on the floor you don't have answers..........you don't wanna talk about the 10,000 mechs out of work.not the FM's you lost & why, the NW RO, the closing of OH bases, the lack of bargaining, the lack of being able to get help from politicians to help the people you are suspose to represent. all ya wanna do is dance & i know what the reply will be & so does everyone else. CIO/twuer/HSS/nightwatch/bill all these people put good ?'s out there for you to answer & it never happens.........NEVER! 'cause you can't talk about the TRUTH....go ahead call me names some of you already have & i'm still here & will for a long time. get used to it. if, you don't like AA/TWU take a hike... you got an a&p go out there & see what it will get you. i know one thing it'll get you..."HUH, what is that?" yeah, yeah, i know you went to school...maybe, so what? there are a lot of you out there as nightwatch said got signed off for it but, hey you got an a&p whippee man i know a lot of MEN
/WOMEN who have an a&p and don't flaunt it around like you amfa (PUKE) boys do & dummie dAAve is a WELDER whats with that????he even went out on a 90 day LL to try to get his time in so, if by chance there would be a vote & amfa(PUKE) would win he would be able to bump a mech. 'cause he KNOWS where his welding work would go if amfa(PUKE) gets in....just like NW/UAL out the door...yeah, look it up SCABS, it's in your contract @ NW & buckhead is all of a sudden is concerned about osm's 'cause his donnie boy might get bumped.
yup, you SCABS are good dancers. did any of you SCABS go to the hall? voice your concerns to Mr.Little/Mr.Yingst/Mr.Gless they were all here the other day another chance for y'all to stand up but.. "NO SHOW amfa" (PUKE) you guys are truly LOSERS!!!!!!!!! :down:
TWU/AFL/CIO/ATD=UNION=SCABFREE

 

[Rusty]

hey,hey SCABBERS 🙂 now don't read this "nufawredi" you either inman......
WHO CARES what you read & who gave you the clue to scroll down ? yeah you're a real whiz are'nt you .....boy i'll show him...oooooooeeee!!! SCAB!!!!!!!!!!!!
that's what i do with dAAve/booby O/rusty/BUCK!!!!!! yeah,yeah,
O buckhead says 20yrs of give backs well, amfa(PUKE) SCABS we've been puttin up with your BS for 20yrs so nah,nah we're even.
you amfa (PUKE) guys can't even answer a simple ? about anything. i sit here & read ?'s from people & all you wnna do is dance around the topic & talk about everything but the issue put forth to you. it's the same on the floor you don't have answers..........you don't wanna talk about the 10,000 mechs out of work.not the FM's you lost & why, the NW RO, the closing of OH bases, the lack of bargaining, the lack of being able to get help from politicians to help the people you are suspose to represent. all ya wanna do is dance & i know what the reply will be & so does everyone else. CIO/twuer/HSS/nightwatch/bill all these people put good ?'s out there for you to answer & it never happens.........NEVER! 'cause you can't talk about the TRUTH....go ahead call me names some of you already have & i'm still here & will for a long time. get used to it. if, you don't like AA/TWU take a hike... you got an a&p go out there & see what it will get you. i know one thing it'll get you..."HUH, what is that?" yeah, yeah, i know you went to school...maybe, so what? there are a lot of you out there as nightwatch said got signed off for it but, hey you got an a&p whippee man i know a lot of MEN
/WOMEN who have an a&p and don't flaunt it around like you amfa (PUKE) boys do & dummie dAAve is a WELDER whats with that????he even went out on a 90 day LL to try to get his time in so, if by chance there would be a vote & amfa(PUKE) would win he would be able to bump a mech. 'cause he KNOWS where his welding work would go if amfa(PUKE) gets in....just like NW/UAL out the door...yeah, look it up SCABS, it's in your contract @ NW & buckhead is all of a sudden is concerned about osm's 'cause his donnie boy might get bumped.
yup, you SCABS are good dancers. did any of you SCABS go to the hall? voice your concerns to Mr.Little/Mr.Yingst/Mr.Gless they were all here the other day another chance for y'all to stand up but.. "NO SHOW amfa" (PUKE) you guys are truly LOSERS!!!!!!!!! :down:
TWU/AFL/CIO/ATD=UNION=SCABFREE

scab, I am sorry but I find I can only get through but about the first or second sentence of your rhetoric before I stop and wonder how could someone in aircraft maintenance get by without an education, then I don't finish reading it. Perhaps if you would take a beginner English class or ask the puppeteers: Jim Little and Art Luby to help you along by sticking their hand a little further, well, anyway just ask them to help you out a little more K. I could be wrong, maybe it's the problem rather than the solution and it's because the intellect is so high I cannot understand the scribble.

 

[Checking it Out]

MAG Consulting:

Act as General Business consultant for AMFA including identify third party contractors, Insurance coverage, Independent contractors, Attend all meetings at National Convention and Attend and assist at contract negotiations as requested. Ever though why AMFA allows Farm-outs?

Rusty, maybe you should finish reading the whole context, you might learn the facts!!!!

 

[James T. Kirk]

Name: Kixrnrtucy
Email:
Employer: N/A
Station: N/A
Date: Tuesday July 27, 2004
Time: 08:25:34 PM

Comments
AMFA Convention 2004
Was the Membership Heard?

Last year, at a joint conference composed of: the NEC, the Locals’ Presidents and the Airline Representatives, a Constitutional Review Committee (CRC) was formed to survey the membership on what they believed were AMFA’s strengths and weaknesses, and how to improve AMFA. The joint committee also tasked the CRC to meet with professional consultants for their perspective on how to enhance and strengthen AMFA.

The CRC sent a survey to 22,000+ members, collected the data from all the returned surveys and had the data professionally compiled. It interviewed AMFA leadership at every local, and solicited a report from a labor expert at the University of Illinois.

The CRC then produced a detailed report that included the following: what the membership and leadership thought worked well within AMFA; what they thought needed improvement; and what were AMFA’s most crucial issues. Also included was a report drafted by the University of Illinois labor expert that contained ideas on how AMFA could become a more effective and efficient organization.

Much effort was put into this study at a cost of over $70,000 to the membership. So what happened to the CRC? One week before the convention Delle disbanded the CRC, stating it was not a legitimate body.

And what of the report? It went unheard. A majority of convention delegates voted to censor the CRC and its report--refusing to hear the CRC presentation on the convention floor. As a result, the delegation proceeded to make decisions on how to shape AMFA’s future without hearing the views and opinions of the membership, or industry and academic professionals. Information essential to a successful convention was simply discarded.

Ask your convention delegates, and your local leadership:

Why the CRC was not allowed to present its findings on the convention floor?

Were any significant CRC recommendations implemented that would have helped create a leaner and meaner AMFA?

Were any meaningful changes implemented to improve AMFA’s structure?

Two weeks and $500,000 of your dues money, what did you get for it, how was your representation improved?

And Ask Delle:

Why did you disband the CRC one week before the convention and why didn’t you want the CRC to report its findings at the convention?

O.V. Delle-Femine
(603) 527-9212
amfanatl@aol.com

One of AMFA’s founding principals was--the membership directed the leadership, the leadership would not dictate to the membership. This means, not only that the membership has the final say on what is implemented, but that the members give input before the leadership acts. Yet a majority of convention delegates voted not to listen to what the members told the CRC. What happened and why? Read the survey! Read the expert’s report!
(Contact your Local President for copies)

It was the University of Minnesota Labor Education Services that conducted the survey, 321 19th Avenue South #3-300 Minneapolis, MN 55455. The Constitution Review Committee's cover letter dated Dec. 8, 2003 accompanying the survey was signed by Steve Lanier, AMFA National; Eric Weeks, Local 14 and George Hellmer, Local 5. The CRC had been directed to present its findings to the joint leadership conference as well as to the Local Delegates at the Constitutional Convention! If someone receives a copy or the results please email a copy to AMFAnuts for posting!

 

[twuer]

Name: Kixrnrtucy
Email:
Employer: N/A
Station: N/A
Date: Tuesday July 27, 2004
Time: 08:25:34 PM

Comments
AMFA Convention 2004
Was the Membership Heard?

Last year, at a joint conference composed of: the NEC, the Locals’ Presidents and the Airline Representatives, a Constitutional Review Committee (CRC) was formed to survey the membership on what they believed were AMFA’s strengths and weaknesses, and how to improve AMFA. The joint committee also tasked the CRC to meet with professional consultants for their perspective on how to enhance and strengthen AMFA.

The CRC sent a survey to 22,000+ members, collected the data from all the returned surveys and had the data professionally compiled. It interviewed AMFA leadership at every local, and solicited a report from a labor expert at the University of Illinois.

The CRC then produced a detailed report that included the following: what the membership and leadership thought worked well within AMFA; what they thought needed improvement; and what were AMFA’s most crucial issues. Also included was a report drafted by the University of Illinois labor expert that contained ideas on how AMFA could become a more effective and efficient organization.

Much effort was put into this study at a cost of over $70,000 to the membership. So what happened to the CRC? One week before the convention Delle disbanded the CRC, stating it was not a legitimate body.

And what of the report? It went unheard. A majority of convention delegates voted to censor the CRC and its report--refusing to hear the CRC presentation on the convention floor. As a result, the delegation proceeded to make decisions on how to shape AMFA’s future without hearing the views and opinions of the membership, or industry and academic professionals. Information essential to a successful convention was simply discarded.

Ask your convention delegates, and your local leadership:

Why the CRC was not allowed to present its findings on the convention floor?

Were any significant CRC recommendations implemented that would have helped create a leaner and meaner AMFA?

Were any meaningful changes implemented to improve AMFA’s structure?

Two weeks and $500,000 of your dues money, what did you get for it, how was your representation improved?

And Ask Delle:

Why did you disband the CRC one week before the convention and why didn’t you want the CRC to report its findings at the convention?

O.V. Delle-Femine
(603) 527-9212
amfanatl@aol.com

One of AMFA’s founding principals was--the membership directed the leadership, the leadership would not dictate to the membership. This means, not only that the membership has the final say on what is implemented, but that the members give input before the leadership acts. Yet a majority of convention delegates voted not to listen to what the members told the CRC. What happened and why? Read the survey! Read the expert’s report!
(Contact your Local President for copies)

It was the University of Minnesota Labor Education Services that conducted the survey, 321 19th Avenue South #3-300 Minneapolis, MN 55455. The Constitution Review Committee's cover letter dated Dec. 8, 2003 accompanying the survey was signed by Steve Lanier, AMFA National; Eric Weeks, Local 14 and George Hellmer, Local 5. The CRC had been directed to present its findings to the joint leadership conference as well as to the Local Delegates at the Constitutional Convention! If someone receives a copy or the results please email a copy to AMFAnuts for posting!

COME ONE, COME ALL.........STEP RIGHT UP...........




Smoke and mirrors boys, smoke and mirrors!!!!!
Merely illusions!!!!





Admission: one amfa membership card (must be submitted with dues upfront!!)

 

[Checking it Out]

MAG Compensation;

40,000 per month for the first 10,000 members adjusted annual, begin 4/15/2000

36,000 per month for the next 10,000 members, in increments of 1000

31,200 per month for the next 10,000 members, in increments of 1000

26,400 per month for the reminder, adjusted per 1000 members adjusted per CPI-U

At the request of the National Director, MAG will make available a private office at its Laconia location for the exclusive use of the National Officers. -- (Who is working for Who?)

AMFA Agrees to reimburse MAG for all out-of-pocket expenses incurred in the course of carrying out its obligations under this agreement.

Agreement does not cover local organizations, separate contracts are needed..

 

[j7915]

I'm sorry you misunderstand me. Suggestions are not what the twu does, they beat you over the head with afl-cio left-wing propaganda. Suggestions?....pluleeze. If you believe that then you are the one thats weak my friend. I am not paying for that which I do not believe in. However, with the twu you have no choice. They use my money without my consent for causes and agendas I do not believe in. They are a union, and a very sorry one at that. They are failing miserably at representing my intrests at the workplace, which is where they should be fighting, but they refuse to take on this company.

Furthermore; I am not discussing politics with someone I don't know. So I guess I will end the political discussions with you right here.

I take offense to you comparing my beliefs, which you know nothing about, to the Afghan Taliban. So I guess I'll compare yours to Boy George? Touche'.

Punks, Drunks, Cowards, Functional Illiterates, and Felons. The twu's finest.

NO VOTE? NO PEACE!!!!

Sort of like the true believers in AMFA beat anyone within earshot over the head to get a a card and representation?

What causes don't you believe in.

 

[High Speed Steel]

CIO, Thank you for the above (Mag) Compensation information. This is a topic of interest to me as to the precarious position that McCormick and Delle have placed themselves in. With the lack of participation of the amfa boy's in this thread, it seems they to are concerened with the threat of influence by the amfa leaders management peer's when it comes to represenation. I am curious to any additional perk's that may have been awarded these positions. Again, very precarious situation, don't you think...! :unsure:

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amfa: The YUGO of the labor movement
Where bargaining means YOU GO....!

 

[Stop the Bus..I Want Off!!]

Yet a majority of convention delegates voted not to listen to what the members told the CRC. What happened and why? Read the survey! Read the expert’s report!
(Contact your Local President for copies)

Did any of you twu company men get a copy and read it?? Please post so we can all enjoy. Thanks in advance!! It's one thing to cut and paste from AMFA-nuts, it's another to know what your talking about!! Unlike the twu, the AMFA represented members "CAN" change what they don't like!! It will be interesting to see if you morons know what your talking about!! The twu has lost the trust of their members. That's why no one believes a word they say!!!!

Keep the Faith.....AMFA NOW!!!!!!