Early Out Package

[cf6mech]

That is correct. Yet those of us that claim to be opposed to a political position, yet we contribute to on a monthly basis.

Those that claim to represent us, are taking a stand for only a small portion of the membership. An early out, for those at the end of the work span of their lives to go onto a life of ease, while those at a station that is being shutdown are given little or no assistance to continue theirs. I believe that the company should be able to assist in the moving expenses of these employees that could take the place of the retirees., however the TWU International should use their vast "Buffet" bank to provide an equal distribution to its members. After all are we the membership their to work for the common good of all the members. It seems that the TWU has lost the first round to protect those that the company has stated that will be outsourced, yet in the style of industrial unionism the remaining classifications will be clumped together into a structure that ignores the market rates, that has placed the membership and the company in the dire straits that we are in today.

I look at American.....as an Airline...... having the same sickness as America the country......there are way to many parrallels......its almost one in the same,...... with bad leadership, getting to big to fast and over spending in good times....... now the machine is to big to sustain itself as is our government, the fat cats ceo's are policed by their own and make lucrative agreements and payscales......not unlike congress voting on their on pay raises......the Unions are not unlike government lobbyists.....quick to take favors for their own agenda and not necessarily for the masses they represent.......its the me , me , me generation with no loyalty to country or company.....

 

[Buck]

If the political affiliation was removed from the TWU I might wear one of their T-Shirts, maybe?

 

[787nightmare]

If the political affiliation was removed from the TWU I might wear one of their T-Shirts, maybe?

Never. Couldn't do it, pathetic track record and the snakes that they are.

 

[Boomer]

Just My Opinion,

The TWU needs to bring in a nation wide sized headhunter group, for the maintenance & related, and charge them with the following:

1) Aggregate the training and certifications into academic credentials that are professionally recognized;
2) Coordinate the aquisition of academic credentials, and upgrading any existing academic credentials, into training tracks resulting in those achievements;
2) Perform standard industry testing for job aptitudes and career interests;
3) Create job fairs and job banks to be shopped to all M&R.

Abscence makes the heart grow fonder: an attrition rate largely populated by those AMR seeks to cut and those that have tired of the foolishness that daily affects their families could be the ticket for those that wish to remain at AMR.

Many of the M&R need that transition piece from the technical field to the academic field to make the jump from an industry that asks much and increasingly wishes to deliver less than Little.

 

[Buck]

Very good point.

Your position makes a lot of sense.

Maybe if A&P's became more aligned with those in academia, academia would then recognize that along with keeping the aircraft in the air, we could become like them and they would let the mechanics in on the financial decisions that could help the airline grow.

 

[Boomer]

Very good point.

Your position makes a lot of sense.

Maybe if A&P's became more aligned with those in academia, academia would then recognize that along with keeping the aircraft in the air, we could become like them and they would let the mechanics in on the financial decisions that could help the airline grow.

The point of my post was that the credentials of a: Avionics technician; A&P Mechanic; Machinist; Welder; Electrician, Automotive Mechanic, etc...have no correlation when we want to leave the technical field and pursue another career in business.

Many of the technicians I have worked with over the last twenty something odd years at AA have experience in managing complex projects including managing manpower and budgets as well as forecasting future requirements in manpower and resources.

Without a correlation being drawn in academia to our technical backgrounds; leaving the business of airplanes and airlines becomes problematic due to the fact that our experience does not equate to a check mark in the appropriate box for the typical headhunter ore corporate recruiter.

Let the TWU use our dues money to help create the shortage others have talked about by allowing those with marketable skill sets to pursue opportunities outside the industry: according to the corporate apologists on this board, everything in America operates on the supply demand curve.

With no one left to backfill the slots left by those that are allowed to pursue their own self interests: the demand for qualified technicians in the airline industry would then require an increase in the compensation of those left behind and an increase in the wages offered to new entrants to the market.

 

[Buck]

The point of my post was that the credentials of a: Avionics technician; A&P Mechanic; Machinist; Welder; Electrician, Automotive Mechanic, etc...have no correlation when we want to leave the technical field and pursue another career in business.

Many of the technicians I have worked with over the last twenty something odd years at AA have experience in managing complex projects including managing manpower and budgets as well as forecasting future requirements in manpower and resources.

Without a correlation being drawn in academia to our technical backgrounds; leaving the business of airplanes and airlines becomes problematic due to the fact that our experience does not equate to a check mark in the appropriate box for the typical headhunter ore corporate recruiter.

Let the TWU use our dues money to help create the shortage others have talked about by allowing those with marketable skill sets to pursue opportunities outside the industry: according to the corporate apologists on this board, everything in America operates on the supply demand curve.

With no one left to backfill the slots left by those that are allowed to pursue their own self interests: the demand for qualified technicians in the airline industry would then require an increase in the compensation of those left behind and an increase in the wages offered to new entrants to the market.

I believe that the Bureau of Labor Statics has a rating for A&P mechanics, but I see your point.

My point is that those in academia, care little for your skill without a degree and a wall from which to hang it.

 

[tech2101]

Just My Opinion,

The TWU needs to bring in a nation wide sized headhunter group, for the maintenance & related, and charge them with the following:

1) Aggregate the training and certifications into academic credentials that are professionally recognized;
2) Coordinate the aquisition of academic credentials, and upgrading any existing academic credentials, into training tracks resulting in those achievements;
2) Perform standard industry testing for job aptitudes and career interests;
3) Create job fairs and job banks to be shopped to all M&R.

Abscence makes the heart grow fonder: an attrition rate largely populated by those AMR seeks to cut and those that have tired of the foolishness that daily affects their families could be the ticket for those that wish to remain at AMR.

Many of the M&R need that transition piece from the technical field to the academic field to make the jump from an industry that asks much and increasingly wishes to deliver less than Little.

Great post... But your out of order brother!

If the TWU did all that, they would be eliminating the need for their own membership to be represented collectively. What you proposed is a typical developmental track at most progressive businesses that wish to grow and prosper.

That, is not the TWU.

 

[rifbound]

Just My Opinion,

The TWU needs to bring in a nation wide sized headhunter group, for the maintenance & related, and charge them with the following:

1) Aggregate the training and certifications into academic credentials that are professionally recognized;
2) Coordinate the aquisition of academic credentials, and upgrading any existing academic credentials, into training tracks resulting in those achievements;
2) Perform standard industry testing for job aptitudes and career interests;
3) Create job fairs and job banks to be shopped to all M&R.

Abscence makes the heart grow fonder: an attrition rate largely populated by those AMR seeks to cut and those that have tired of the foolishness that daily affects their families could be the ticket for those that wish to remain at AMR.

Many of the M&R need that transition piece from the technical field to the academic field to make the jump from an industry that asks much and increasingly wishes to deliver less than Little.

you know that you can use your a&p credit hours for a four year degree at many different schools for a bachelor of science. pretty much all the classes are offered online so you don't have to even step foot in a classroom! do some research, not hard.

 

[chris perry]

you know that you can use your a&p credit hours for a four year degree at many different schools for a bachelor of science. pretty much all the classes are offered online so you don't have to even step foot in a classroom! do some research, not hard.

http://www.roswell.enmu.edu/areas-of-study/career-and-technical-education/aviation-maintenance-technology/welcome-to-aviation-maintenance-technology