Delta loads new DAL flights

[700UW]

if you really aren't ADD, then there is no defamation.
 
If you can explain why you took the conversation off topic, then there is no way I would have any charge about ADD.
 

You made a false statement about me, that is defamation, go check the definition.
 
And you are the one who took the topic in a different direction as your post shows.
 
So its ok for you to take a post off topic, and no one can reply to your direction shift?
 
You dont own the boards, and you dont make the rules, get use to it.
 
Chastise yourself, as you took if off topic, on numerous occasions as the proof I posted clearly shows that.

But since DL will benefit from the AA/US merger if for no other reason that AA's further not WINNING at NYC, DL isn't going to go after the merger itself but rather access to DAL 
 
Again, DL hasn't pulled their flights to/from DAL.  They don't think the issue is over.  Thus, it is worth discussing.

 

[WorldTraveler]

shall we go back and look at every post in this 22 page thread to see where else it went off topic.
 
If you say you have no ADD, then I accept that and no, there is no defamation involved. 
 
If you would like to go and say whether you have ADD or not, then we can set that issue to rest.  If you deny it, then it is closed.
 
If you want to make an issue of it, I can certainly find a whole lot of statements that you have made that are equally worthy of litigation if that is where you would like to go.
 
whether you like it or not, the overall competitive situation is a factor in the DAL situation for AA.  It is precisely because they believe their overall competitive situation will improve as a result of the merger even after divesting dozens of gates and scores of slot pairs at DCA and LGA, and most significant to this discussion, access to DAL.
 
DL apparently doesn't consider the cost to AA for its own merger as a reason for DL to give up its own flights at DAL since DL's flights are still for sale. 

 

[swamt]

Everybody needs to get back on topic as E has first suggested. However, we all know why it went off topic, WT is not happy with the realization of Delta and Dal LF so he purposely changes the subject to NYC, typical of him.

I still see WT is also beating the dead horse so I will only respond to one part of your posting concerning the topic at hand. Just because Delta has not taken down the fares they have sold for post W/A does not mean what you say it means that Delta will do something. The only thing Delta might do is tell all their customers that if they don't transfer their tickets over to DFW they will be charged a fee in order to get a refund as they will try and force the passengers to stay with them instead of the passengers getting pissed at Delta and switching over to SWA or VX depending who gets the gates. We can see you are completely pissed off about the LF issues, but it's not our fault...

 

[WorldTraveler]

here is what is on topic:
 
DL has not pulled its flights despite your assertion that DL has no future at DAL and your reported charge that DL is "illegally" selling seats. 
 
I am simply standing up for open and equal access to federally funded facilities... you and WN don't want that to happen and you don't want to have to compete with DL who  has a very strong record of competing with WN and limiting WN's growth. 
 
It is not hard to see why WN wants DL out of the picture despite the fact that good competition is good for consumers even if it bad for WN.  

 

[eolesen]

if you really aren't ADD, then there is no defamation.

Wrong. You made a false statement with the intent to do malice, and one that could be reasonably interpreted as being true.

That's defamation.
 

So its ok for you to take a post off topic, and no one can reply to your direction shift?
 
You dont own the boards, and you dont make the rules, get use to it.
 
Chastise yourself, as you took if off topic, on numerous occasions as the proof I posted clearly shows that.

You'll never see WT admit anything.

Perhaps Matthew 7:1-5 would be some good reading for the day?

 

[robbedagain]

first of all wt  you cannot tell who has ADD by reading their posts..  secondly  how would you respond if it were 700 or some other poster tellin you you have ADD on here      

 

[LD3]

I just want to know what DL has to gain by adding more flights from DAL?  Wouldn't it dilute the traffic they are pulling from DFW now?

 

[WorldTraveler]

robbed,
I honestly learned a long time ago to know who I am and not be worried about what other people say about me if it isn't the truth.
 
If I insulted 700 then I sincerely apologize to him. 
 
DL's interest in DAL is no different than that it also serves MDW alongside ORD while AA and UA serve only ORD.
 
DL, not surprisingly, is the largest airline from Chicago to each of its hubs that it serves from both airports. 
 
There is some overlap between any two airports even in the same metro area but there is a distinct enough market that it is worth pursuing... that is why some will argue that WN will have no effect on AA. 

 

[robbedagain]

out of DAL  i can see the WN effect to the cities that AA serves out of DFW    which would pretty much be similar to WN going to similar cities out MDW  as UA does out of ORD  etc
 
so for say MDW to DAL  WN would be largest just as say SFO to ORD is for UAL   and that would be no different than your statement that DL is the largest to its hubs from ORD and MDW

 

[WorldTraveler]

except that there was no WN effect when WN started DAL-STL and MCI, 2 routes that AA had dominated after DL pulled down its hub.  WN didn't create significant amounts of new demand; they simply divided the market with AA, forced down fares for a short period of time but now fares are almost identical on both carriers and WN does not have an advantage in fares vs AA.
 
WN wants you to continue to believe that they push fares down but their history out of DAL shows very clearly that they bring their fares up but only after gaining half of the market. 
 
IN contrast, WN at ATL and PHL had average fares that were far lower than DL and UA but they cut those markets because WN SIMPLY DOES NOT HAVE THE COST STRUCTURE TO REDUCE FARES TO LEVELS SIGNIFICANTLY BELOW LEGACY CARRIERS.
 
As much as the DOJ wants to believe otherwise and WN wants to keep saying, WN does not have the cost structure low enough to be a price leader as they once were.

 

[FrugalFlyerv2.0]

Does DL have a low enough cost structure to reduce fares / be a price leader?

 

[WorldTraveler]

DL's strategy is based on generating PREMIUM REVENUES, something they do very well.
 
DL is highly competitive with whoever comes along which is precisely how they have been able to grow even in markets like JFK where B6 has a much lower cost structure than DL.
 
DL's revenue premium comes from offering a product which PASSENGERS consider to be more valuable... how else can anyone explain how DL gains revenue premiums relative to every other large US airline. 
 
DL's focus is revenue maximization supported by the ability to maintain cost controls as good as or better than other carriers in the industry. 

 

[LD3]

 

DL is highly competitive with whoever comes along which is precisely how they have been able to grow even in markets like JFK where B6 has a much lower cost structure than DL.

 
Now he going to give us a lesson on how much JetBlue sucks and can't do anything right....

 

[WorldTraveler]

Why do you and others interpret the fact (and it is proven) that DL has been able to effectively compete and grow in markets where other carriers are strong that those carriers suck?
 
DL is a tough competitor.  Those carriers are all tough competitors or they wouldn't be able to survive in the current environment. 
 
but it also doesn't change that those companies and DL will do all they need to do to advance their own strategic objectives. 

 

[blue collar]

Why do you and others interpret the fact (and it is proven) that DL has been able to effectively compete and grow in markets where other carriers are strong that those carriers suck?
 
DL is a tough competitor.  Those carriers are all tough competitors or they wouldn't be able to survive in the current environment. 
 
but it also doesn't change that those companies and DL will do all they need to do to advance their own strategic objectives. 

And it only took 1 bankruptcy to get where they are! (2 if you count NW's too- but I know DL tries to get the red out, so I'll leave it out too)