WorldTraveler
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- Dec 5, 2003
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Pan Am ran a horrible business and they couldn't maintain airplanes. You did see their 310s didn't you?
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All of this.eolesen said:
It's more like DL found out that A4A was a democracy, and wasn't able to simply get their way on everything because Richard sayeth so...
Now, instead of spending $5M a year for A4A to do the lobbying on their behalf, DL will spend at least that much trying to do their own lobbying, and it's probably not going to work out any better for them as a single entity.
But hey, other airlines have tried to go it alone. Braniff v1.0 did. Worked out well for them in the end.
Welcome to the dark side. Just ignore and move on.
eolesen said:It's more like DL found out that A4A was a democracy, and wasn't able to simply get their way on everything because Richard sayeth so...
Now, instead of spending $5M a year for A4A to do the lobbying on their behalf, DL will spend at least that much trying to do their own lobbying, and it's probably not going to work out any better for them as a single entity.
But hey, other airlines have tried to go it alone. Braniff v1.0 did. Worked out well for them in the end.
Easy answer.... Delta left. What choices did aa or Alaska have? They didn't kick Delta out... Delta left of their own choosing. They had no choice but to put a positive spin on it. Not so noisy I suspect.commavia said:http://airlines.org/news/a4a-board-votes-to-remove-delta-air-lines-maintain-association-budget/
Seems A4A didn't want to wait six months for Delta to leave, agreeing to pick up Delta's share of the dues and "expressed unanimous support for A4A and its agenda." As A4A Vice Chair and CEO of Alaska Airlines (haha) Brad Tilden put it, "A4A is a consensus-based organization, and we are pleased to be moving forward speaking in a unified voice."
So begging the obvious "tree falling in the forest" question, if Delta leaves A4A and none of the other members care, does it matter?
Apparently not.commavia said:So begging the obvious "tree falling in the forest" question, if Delta leaves A4A and none of the other members care, does it matter?
Let's run a WT play - look it up yourself let us know your analysis - I've already done my research on DLs success in this space - the Internet has lots of information on DLs outstanding advocacy successesWorldTraveler said:Tell us what your factors are for success or not and then maybe we can determine whether DL has been successful or not.
A4A appears to have wanted Delta out ASAP. When all the other members are willing to pony up the fees to cover for Delta's removal speaks volumes. As the article below says that they are tired of putting astric marks at the end of every quote why Delta was the only one that did not agree with the A4A. Who is the common denominator here? It is Delta at DAL. And it is Delta here with the A4A.commavia said:
http://airlines.org/news/a4a-board-votes-to-remove-delta-air-lines-maintain-association-budget/
Seems A4A didn't want to wait six months for Delta to leave, agreeing to pick up Delta's share of the dues and "expressed unanimous support for A4A and its agenda." As A4A Vice Chair and CEO of Alaska Airlines (haha) Brad Tilden put it, "A4A is a consensus-based organization, and we are pleased to be moving forward speaking in a unified voice."
So begging the obvious "tree falling in the forest" question, if Delta leaves A4A and none of the other members care, does it matter?