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[WorldTraveler]

Oh come on. If you've demonstrated anything on this forum, it's that you promote what is good for DL. So, I think the comment above is highly suspect.

Question: During the DL-NW merger was anyone on this forum deriding the advisibilty of that merger, as you do now concerning AA-US? I'm curious, as I didn't pay attention at the time.

you can go look at the threads.. they are still here.

Remember also that DL-NW was the first of the megamergers. There was honestly a lot more positive from what it would deliver.

I think you will also see that the biggest concerns regarding DL-NW were employee related.

The challenge has ALWAYS been that AA-US would find it much harder to merge up against established mergers from DL, UA, and WN. It is also true that AA-US does not deliver what DL-NW or UA-CO delivered.
That is just the reality of the situation, is a challenge that AA-US have to overcome independently or together, and gives validation to why DL, UA and WN all went forward w/ their mergers earlier.

He forgot to add that this outcome is also the best that Delta could ever hope for. This way AA will remain smaller than DL, and hopefully they can eat away at US until they close up shop. I'm glad that the masses are finally starting to see thru his agenda with world domination for Delta, as I have seen thru this charade for quite a while.

You continue to be unable to understand that business is business, not child's play. Business is cut throat competitive.
To somehow pretend it doesn't happen at corporate levels and shouldn't be talked about here is nonsense.
I suppose it is more fun to bit78 about how airlines treat their employees, but it isn't the only dimension of the airline industry.

The only charade comes from those who are afraid to talk about the tough realities of life.
AA and US' competitors will do what they need to do regardless of whether it gets talked about here or not.

 

[DCaf]

It is also true that AA-US does not deliver what DL-NW or UA-CO delivered.
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So what? Does it have to? Is it mandatory? Your Delta uber alles propaganda is expected, but I am surprised you included UA-CO on DL's lofty perch. Besides, AA-US could deliver more, no one knows.

 

[FA Mikey]

A combo of US and AA gathers nothing. Both United and Delta merged with airlines fitting in to the missing part of there route system. For United it was Mexico, Central and South America and for Delta it was the NWA orient.

U offers AA nothing but size. Does AA need more size? U offers no south America or Orient. Again U offers nothing for AA. As we see the new airplanes come on line we will see more expansion and new and better service. Just looks at the new 3 class transcons.

 

[wings396]

you can go look at the threads.. they are still here.

Remember also that DL-NW was the first of the megamergers. There was honestly a lot more positive from what it would deliver.

I think you will also see that the biggest concerns regarding DL-NW were employee related.

The challenge has ALWAYS been that AA-US would find it much harder to merge up against established mergers from DL, UA, and WN. It is also true that AA-US does not deliver what DL-NW or UA-CO delivered.
That is just the reality of the situation, is a challenge that AA-US have to overcome independently or together, and gives validation to why DL, UA and WN all went forward w/ their mergers earlier.

You continue to be unable to understand that business is business, not child's play. Business is cut throat competitive.
To somehow pretend it doesn't happen at corporate levels and shouldn't be talked about here is nonsense.
I suppose it is more fun to bit78 about how airlines treat their employees, but it isn't the only dimension of the airline industry.

The only charade comes from those who are afraid to talk about the tough realities of life.
AA and US' competitors will do what they need to do regardless of whether it gets talked about here or not.

So it is, but why do you make Delta YOUR BUSINESS?

 

[wings396]

A combo of US and AA gathers nothing. Both United and Delta merged with airlines fitting in to the missing part of there route system. For United it was Mexico, Central and South America and for Delta it was the NWA orient.

U offers AA nothing but size. Does AA need more size? U offers no south America or Orient. Again U offers nothing for AA. As we see the new airplanes come on line we will see more expansion and new and better service. Just looks at the new 3 class transcons.

The entire southeast is nothing? A good portion of the east coast, PHL, nothing? Good thing you are only a flying waitress Mikey....
Just curious, does your nametag say Mikey? That's soooo cute, I had a friend that we called Mikey too, but we were about 8 years old then....

 

[FA Mikey]

The entire southeast is nothing? A good portion of the east coast, PHL, nothing? Good thing you are only a flying waitress Mikey....
Just curious, does your nametag say Mikey? That's soooo cute, I had a friend that we called Mikey too, but we were about 8 years old then....

So you have nothing constructive to say, so you choose 5 year old name calling. I come here for something more than that.

 

[WorldTraveler]

So you have nothing constructive to say, so you choose 5 year old name calling. I come here for something more than that.

bingo!

Despite accusing others of being consumed with this whole merger business, Wings is by far the most emotionally attached person to the whole process - and the first one to resort to name calling. He apparently feels threatened by the possibility that someone might bring a few facts to the table that would show this proposed merger isn't the greatest thing since sliced bread.

~You would think if an AA-US merger was so certain, he would be able to articulate the reasons - or at least not be threatened by those who might have an opposing point of view.

Like any of us will really determine the outcome anyway.

 

[LD3]

I have one question for WT, would a AA/US link up be a concern for DL?

 

[wings396]

I'm attached? You better look in the mirror pal. Are you forgetting that you don't work for delta anymore? How much friggen time do you spend writing page long stories about a job you no longer have. I think that those who see thru your BS have just begun to surface. Being an arrogant, annoying know it all is starting to work against you pal. You just plain old piss me off with your condescending attitude. Good thing you don't work in my parts, as you would have had a few attitude adjustments already. You just have a way of irritating people. I don't really give a ratts ass what you think, I'm just sick and tired of reading your rhetoric, and so are many others. How many people have you gone to battle with on here? I bet a hell of a lot more than anyone else. I guess you love to be hated...rather sad in a way. I too made an attempt to give you the benefit of the doubt, but have quickly learned that its just not possible. I know you know how business works, that's why your on the outside looking in and trying to gain fame on here.
Are you really that full of yourself that you think that any
"Facts" that you present on here mean jack to anyone who is involved with this merger process? Wow....

 

[WorldTraveler]

I have one question for WT, would a AA/US link up be a concern for DL?

DL, like any other company, is going to protect its strategic interests. If DL believed it could accomplish what it needed to do while AA and US merged, I'm not sure it matters.

An AA-US merger would also have to succeed in order for DL to find it to be a concern. The jury is far from out that AA-US, even if it did happen, could move fast enough to really change the competitive situation.

BTW, while you frame the question WRT to Delta, you can ask the same question about AS, B6, F9, UA, and WN - among others.
There seems to be a contagion to not walk to talk about the competitive reality of the world of aviation. I'm truly amazed that people don't believe these kinds of discussions go on in board rooms all around the world.

Business is brutal and every one of these companies is going to target AA and US, individually and if they merge, collectively. They already are and it will only increase. To pretend it doesn't happen and won't escalate shows, ignorance of the nature of competitive business, to be quite blunt.

I'm attached? You better look in the mirror pal. Are you forgetting that you don't work for delta anymore? How much friggen time do you spend writing page long stories about a job you no longer have. I think that those who see thru your BS have just begun to surface. Being an arrogant, annoying know it all is starting to work against you pal. You just plain old piss me off with your condescending attitude. Good thing you don't work in my parts, as you would have had a few attitude adjustments already. You just have a way of irritating people. I don't really give a ratts ass what you think, I'm just sick and tired of reading your rhetoric, and so are many others. How many people have you gone to battle with on here? I bet a hell of a lot more than anyone else. I guess you love to be hated...rather sad in a way. I too made an attempt to give you the benefit of the doubt, but have quickly learned that its just not possible. I know you know how business works, that's why your on the outside looking in and trying to gain fame on here.
Are you really that full of yourself that you think that any
"Facts" that you present on here mean jack to anyone who is involved with this merger process? Wow....

Are you this defensive w/ everyone that provides an opinion contrary to you?

Don't attempt to make this an issue with me since you have said the same things to other people here. The issue is the message that other people have and the dissonance it provides with what you want to hear.

This board is not a closed party nor is it the domain of airline employees. If that is what you want, I would suggest you find someplace else to play.

Until you leave, you will be forced to listen to the opinions of customers and every other type of person - and they will provide opinions contrary to yours.

If you don't want to deal with other people's opinions, don't communicate with the outside world.

I don't want the benefit of your doubt. I want to communicate with people who are capable of accepting a diverse world of ideas.

Threatening someone who provides information you don't like to hear says volumes about your inability to face the reality of the world around you.

I pity you. I really do.

 

[diamondcutter]

WT it might do you some good if you did not regurgitate the same thing. Post after post. We all know a AA and US would make the 1 one carrier on the east coast , and mid west.

 

[WorldTraveler]

WT it might do you some good if you did not regurgitate the same thing. Post after post. We all know a AA and US would make the 1 one carrier on the east coast , and mid west.

That is the stated goal of the merger that has been regurgitated, but know we don't know that will be the result.

You and others want to blindly accept that AA/US other competitors are going to sit quietly on the sidelines waiting for AA/US to pull off this merger.

No other airline has attempted to merge in the midst of a competitive environment that is as aggressive as it is now. That intensely aggressive environment is not going away - and AA/US competitors are only going to increase their competitive attacks as soon as the merger is announced, if it is.

 

[FA Mikey]

There will likely be no merger. I am sure DAL and UAL having already thwarted that arrow are just waiting for AA for do the same.

Come DEC they will announce there stand alone plan and continue to build they new airline.

 

[diamondcutter]

And you do not know what DL 's plan will be to compete with a merger, but I'm sure some lengthy post will soon be on its way. Here is an honest question for you ... Why do you care so much if AA and US were to merge. I think people are trying to understand why. We all know where you stand with DL , however why so preoccupied with this.

 

[diamondcutter]

There will likely be no merger. I am sure DAL and UAL having already thwarted that arrow are just waiting for AA for do the same.

Come DEC they will announce there stand alone plan and continue to build they new airline.

Do you have any facts to back that up?