Dec 2012 / Jan 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[EastUS1]

Just hopelessly delusional.

Thank you Dr. Phil.

 

[EastUS1]

They saw that with Parker trying to do a merger it gave them strength. Simple. Even with them in Ch11 they have a stronger hand than we do....

OK. I'll admit that you've completely lost me with that "logic" sir. Does not Parker trying to do a merger greatly enhance the bargaining position of the US workers as well?

 

[Walmartgreeter]

Since you brought it up: Could you please now explain to us all why FIVE members of the BPR could even begin to believe that Hummel's essentially just acting the part of a company stooge here? I must admit that if such is true, it would explain a great deal of what's been transpiring lately. Seriously; Are all five just completely insane and hopelessly delusional? Some rather rancid stench is starting to emerge from all of this here.

Let me get this straight. The "five" guys politically polar to Hummel are saying his is a stooge. You bet. Must be true.Greeter

 

[Al Legheny]

-----Forwarded Message-----
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Subject: MOU need to know

The Rest of the Story

By the Fly on the Wall



The Unanimous Vote

There’s been a lot of conjecture about the possibility that 5 members of the BPR who voted to recommend membership approval of the MOU actually don’t support it and will personally vote against it during ratification. That is true, they will vote against it. In addition, 2 east pilots who sat in during a portion of deliberations as DDR’s (duly designated representatives) will also vote against the MOU. If you’re skeptical, give them a call and ask. These are the representatives and DDR’s.

Bill McKee
Steve Crimi
DeWitt Ingram
Steve Szpyrka
Mike Gilles
Paul Diorio (DDR)
Mike Martin (DDR)

This is obviously causing a lot of confusion on the line. How could 7 east pilots who had a hand in deliberating the MOU not actually be supportive of it? After all, it was a unanimous vote, right?

The reason isn’t that complicated. Here is why there was a unanimous vote without actual unanimous support of the MOU:

· The 5 members of the BPR (and 2 DDR’s) believe that President Hummel is working in collusion with the Company and he is being enabled by 6 BPR members (3 PHX, 2 DCA, 1 PHL). As a result, they believe that the MOU is the best we can do absent a recall of the Officers or a change in the BPR (PHL election), or…a rejection by the membership.
· The 5 demanded extra cash for our pilots (pay beginning on the date of ratification). When they did this, one of the 5 offered a unanimous vote to secure the pay. He did not have the consensus of the 5.

The 5 voted for you to approve the MOU not because they thought it was a good agreement but because they absolutely knew the other 6 were going to approve it with a 6-5 vote and decided if that was going to happen they needed to use their leverage to secure some additional pay, and that’s just what they did. But, and this is a monumental but….they do not want the membership to ratify the agreement.

A Little History

The 7 pilots named above believe that the Officers, particularly Gary Hummel, are working in collusion with the Company and will be rewarded someday by the company, a la Assistant Chief Pilot Bill Pollock. These Officers are being enabled by 6 members of the BPR – 3 PHX, 2 DCA, 1 PHL (Weidner) so they routinely lose votes 6-5. On January 3rd after hours of heated debate it was obvious the 6 were going to force a vote on the MOU and there was no doubt it would pass 6-5. Immediately prior to that the 6 members of the BPR, all 4 NAC members, 3 of 4 Officers, the Comm. Chairman and the Scope Chairman and a few more had all verbalized their belief that the MOU as presented was “the best we could do” and there was “nothing more left on the table”. Only a moment before the vote would have been forced, Vice Chairman Steve Crimi asked each member of the 5 if he had permission to speak for the group and they each replied “yes”. He then addressed the BPR and informed them that if the vote was forced right then, the 5 members would call for a “division” (roll call) and the MOU would fail. (When a “division” is called each BPR member votes for each pilot they represent. In that case, the 5 members have more votes than the 6)

After a cacophony of outbursts from the 6 subsided, an ultimatum was given…If the company meets a specific demand – which was given moments later - the 5 would still vote against the MOU, but they would not call for a division to prevail and the MOU would pass 6 -5. Soon after the ultimatum was given, one of the 5 offered a unanimous vote. That offer by one member of the 5 has proved very problematic because as a result, the 5 are being censored from communicating their true feelings about the MOU.


Why Didn’t the Five Use Division to Stop the MOU if They Didn’t Support it?

Unlike at ALPA, a Division of the house can only be used for very specific purposes under the USAPA Constitution. Here’s the language

“Division of the house shall be permitted only for votes taken to approve or reject any tentative agreements affecting income, work rule change(s), and/or benefit(s); setting parameters for collective bargaining; agreements on affiliation or merger with another labor organization; agreements arising from a merger of, or successor transactions involving the employer, or its parent (including seniority integration agreements); and amendments to the Constitution and Bylaws. On a Division of the house vote, each member of the Board shall be entitled to vote equal percentages of the active members in good standing…”

The 5 did not call for a division of the house to stop the MOU because they knew if the MOU failed at the BPR level that additional actions would needed to be taken and these actions would come in the form of directives through BPR resolutions. At that point, a call for division would not be available under the Constitution and any action the 5 thought necessary would likely be voted down 6-5 again. It is also particularly difficult to direct the President and lawyers and committees to do certain things when the President - who oversees both Legal Counsel and the Committees - does not support such actions. With these things in mind, the 5 chose instead to use the threat of division to secure an additional gain for the pilots should the membership approve the MOU. Do not take this to mean they support the MOU and want you to ratify it. They do not.

The Quickest Way to a Better Lifestyle?

You may have noticed that USAPA continues telling the membership that the BPR and President “believes this MOU is the quickest and surest path to a better lifestyle for us all.” Has anyone ever seen a resolution the BPR voted on that says such a thing? No, of course no one has because it doesn’t exist. This statement was never endorsed by the BPR. It’s simply part of the USAPA sales job.


Did the 6 Support the Retro Pay Date of February 8th?

Ted Reed, who for years covered US Airways for the Charlotte Observer recently wrote an article for The Street.com that was picked up by Forbes. In it he gave credit to the CLT Reps. and 2 PHL Reps. for making a unanimous vote possible by their demand for additional pay. Subsequent to the story he sent out a revised version suggesting that some of the 6 also supported the demand for additional pay. So what happened? Why did Ted Reed change his story to now suggest that maybe the 6 also played a role? Simple; when the original story came out, the 6 were outraged that credit was being given where it was due and one of the DCA Reps. communicated to Ted Reed that they also were supportive. After Ted Reed heard from enough people demanding that he change history, he rewrote the story with the addition of the suggestion that it wasn’t only the 5 who sought a change. He got it both right and wrong by the way. The 6 Reps. were indeed supportive…right after they were made aware that they had no other choice because the 5 were going to call for division. For PHX, DCA, or Jamie Weidner to suggest they had any part in securing the retro pay is absolute hogwash. Remember, the threat of division was not made until 16 people – yes 16 total! – had given their opinion that the MOU was the best that could be done and no more was available, including the 6 BPR members who afterwards sought credit through Ted Reed. As it turned out, they were all wrong, except for the 5 of course. The 6 were going to force a vote and vote yes without the pay date being moved back to the date of ratification.

The Dividing Line

Apparently last week at the NAC roadshow in CLT, Steve Crimi more than once explained to the membership why, in his opinion, we didn’t secure real retroactive pay or an equity stake similar to APA’s. He politely dismissed the excuse the NAC had just given about us not having “a claim” in bankruptcy court and instead spoke of a dividing line amongst the BPR and also amongst the line pilots. The dividing line being between those who think we have real leverage and those who think we don’t. He explained that clearly 5 members on the BPR believe we have significant leverage and 6 members don’t. He went on to summarize that the reason we didn’t secure real retro pay or an equity stake was because the USAPA leadership (President and 6 members of the BPR) refused to use the available leverage. You could tell he had more to say, but avoiding the politics seemed to be important to him.

What Now?

It’s pretty obvious USAPA is selling this MOU to the pilots. The material mailed to you contains only the good and none of the bad. It doesn’t even contain the MOU itself and that’s what you are voting on. This MOU will get a tremendous amount of “no” votes. It would get even more - perhaps even fail - if the pilots understand that saying “no” is not the end of the game. If the pilots say “no” that would be the 3rd strike against the NAC and the President and the other Officers. The 5 member minority of the BPR would get the message (maybe even the 6 would finally get the message) loud and clear from the pilots that “we are behind you and we expect you to get more”. They would be emboldened to make use of “division” to dictate negotiations which they are allowed to do, and you can expect they would make significant changes to the NAC and our bargaining positions. It would also be likely someone in the membership would start a recall attempt against the President and maybe the entire Officer corps. It’s a very similar scenario to what happened at APA after the leadership said to pass the LBFO and it overwhelmingly failed. From there they moved forward and were able to improve on the first agreement.

The Dividing Line Revisited and the Possible Paths

Do we really have leverage? The 5 think they proved it to a degree when 16 people in positions of authority in the union said “there is no more available” and the very next day the company offered another $50 to $100 million.

If the leverage is real and the membership says “no”, the company will be back in short order to improve their offer. If the leverage is not real then the company will attempt to do the deal without us which would simply mean a delay in working under the APA contract. But since the APA contract has many, many pitfalls because of a poor MOU, is that really much of a risk at all? If there is a delay, then you would enjoy significant forward movement due to your long awaited attrition that just began in December.

The MOU and NAC Misrepresentations

Here are a few topics the NAC is misrepresenting:


· Pay protection
· Minimum block hours
· E190 fleet size
· B-Scale
· The value of your Change of Control language

Pay Protection

There are two types of pay protection in the MOU and both are being misrepresented by the NAC. They continue to pretend that if you are displaced from your equipment (pay protection I) or onto the E190 (pay protection II) you will be pay protected. It’s nonsense and it’s irresponsible for the NAC to lead pilots to believe there is pay protection in an attempt to get this MOU to pass. Why not just tell the pilots the facts and let them decide?

Here’s the pertinent language for pay protection for displacement:

Any US Airways pilot as of the Effective Date who is thereafter involuntarily displaced to a
lower paying position shall be pay protected. The pay protections of this Paragraph shall continue
unchanged if the affected pilot(s) suffer(s) multiple displacements, but shall end whenever such
pilot(s) can hold the position from which the pilot was originally displaced or an equivalent or greater
pay position.

Do you understand what it means? It means you won’t be pay protected unless you can’t hold a piece of equipment that pays the same anywhere in the system. So, if you get displaced out of your Airbus Captain seat in CLT and you can hold MD80 Captain in Chicago…no pay protection.

Here’s the E190 pay protection language:

Commencing on the date of single operating certificate for US Airways and New American
Airlines or their successors (if any), all pilots, who have established and maintain seniority on the US
Airways mainline system and who are eligible for furlough protection pursuant to Paragraph 11 above,
will be paid in accordance with the Group I pay rates as set forth in Paragraph 22 when flying a Group
I aircraft except for the following pay protection: a Group I captain shall be paid at Group III first officer
pay rates unless the captain can hold a Group III first officer or higher-paying position; a Group I first
officer shall be paid at Group II first officer pay rates unless the first officer can hold a Group II first
officer or higher-paying position.

Do you understand what it means? It means if you get displaced to the E190 Captain you won’t be pay protected to your previous equipment if you can hold a group III F/O (767). Both of these pay protections are useless, yet the NAC is advertising that there is pay protection. Why? NAC Chairman Dean Colello admitted that Scott Kirby himself said he probably will never pay a dime in pay protection. Why isn’t that in the mailer from USAPA?

E190 Fleet Size

Now that you know the pay protections are worthless let’s discuss how many E190’s the company is allowed. The NAC has been asked numerous times at roadshows what prevents the company from flooding the airline with E190’s. They are quick to point out it’s not allowed during the interim protections because the E190 isn’t included in the minimum block hour provision. It is true that they are not included in the minimums but that doesn’t prohibit the company from getting just as many as they want. True, they would have to be in addition to aircraft covered under the minimum block hour language so that’s OK. But let’s be clear…the company can get as many E190’s as they desire.

The bigger question of course is how many E190’s can the company get after the interim block hour protections expire? The NAC has also been asked this numerous times and Dean Colello’s answer has been ridiculous. When he was asked in CLT he answered – with a straight face – that even though the company could replace every MD-80 and old 737 with E190’s he doesn’t think it will be a problem because Embraer can’t build the airplanes fast enough. No, this isn’t a joke. Long term you have no protection from the company getting hundreds of E190’s with a new B-scale but the NAC doesn’t think it’s a problem because of limitations on manufacturing rates.

The New B-Scale

Already famous for the launch of the B-scale in the 80’s, the APA has done it again with the E190 Captain rate of $114/hr. It is true the airplane is included in the parity review on January 1, 2016 and is expected to be brought up to $147 an hour but since the parity review is done by adding a certain percentage increase to an artificially low rate, the $147 will reflect well below industry standard for the E190. To make matters worse, the NAC is avoiding telling you that contained in the APA contract is the following language:

Neither party shall, without the written consent of the other party, seek to modify the pay relationship (i.e. ratio) set forth in Section 3.E. between Group I and Groups II – V through the processes of the Railway Labor Act for a period of two (2) contract cycles or ten (10) years from DOS, whichever is later.


Do you understand what it means? It means the B-scale E190 rates will be here for over a decade before APA is even allowed to discuss it with management. They have agreed to not bring it up for 10 years or two Section 6 negotiating cycles whichever is longer.

And how did the APA go about mitigating the lower E190 pay? With this language:

Pilots flying Group I aircraft may pick-up as restricted only by FAR limits.

This is the only fleet that is allowed a cap of FAR limits. It looks like this was the APA’s way of addressing the lower hourly pay.

Block Hour Protections

The NAC is leading pilots to believe that the block hour minimums in the MOU are an improvement from your current contract. They are not. The block hour minimums you enjoy now are calculated as actual block hours. The minimums in the MOU are calculated as scheduled block hours. In an average month, actual block hours flown end up being around 95% of scheduled. When you apply this ratio you will find that the MOU number is a concession. More importantly is that the East is presently flying about 9% above the contractual limits and is very likely to reduce all the way to the new MOU limits once the code share with American is allowed. Do the math, 9 % to the current contractual limits and an additional 5% to the MOU minimums. Assuming the New American will live up to its “no furlough” commitment it is likely that they will shrink at the rate of attrition which means the East will take the brunt of the reductions since the West’s attrition rate is almost non-existent and they are already near their contractual minimums.

As a reminder, the “actual” versus “scheduled” block hour minimum is something your union fought hard to retain and won in grievance only to give it away in the MOU.



Widebody Protection

The NAC is very proud of the wide-body protections in the MOU. They continually remind you that you don’t have any widebody minimum block hour protections in your contract and they were able to negotiate them for you in the MOU. Unfortunately they aren’t telling you the whole story because you currently do have protections for every route flown by a widebody. It’s called a code share prohibition and it’s found in Section 1 of your contract. If the company wants to serve an international city with a widebody, a US Airways pilot will be in the cockpit with only a couple exceptions. For the NAC to tell you that you don’t have widebody protections in your contract is extremely misleading.



Have you looked at the widebody protection language in the MOU? Here it is:

“The number of widebody positions, either maintained or pay protected, for US
Airways pilots shall be no less than 291 US Airways widebody captain positions and 475 US
Airways widebody first officer positions.”

It jumps out that the number of protected positions is less than those in the March bid – 9% by the way. What is often overlooked is this important language, “…either maintained or pay protected…”. It is the “or pay protected” that you need to be acutely aware of. What it means is if the company decides to retire the entire A330 fleet, all they would need to do to abide by the MOU would be pay the pilots the difference between the A330 hourly rate and what the pilot was displaced to.

The Value of Your Change of Control

The NAC sent you a Q & A on January 25th. It was another in a series of educational pieces meant to persuade you to vote “yes” on the MOU. In it the NAC provided you with their take on the valuation of the change of control being triggered versus signing onto the MOU. Their valuation is pointless because the value of the Change of Control does not come from it being triggered. The value of the Change of Control is to force the company to the table. The Change of Control is for sale, and right now your President, NAC and 6 members of the BPR are encouraging you to sell it for a fraction of its true worth. Only a few years ago, Doug Parker in an interview with Ted Reed said a merger couldn’t be done with the Change of Control language in place. Vote “no” and the company will be back.



Sincerely,

The Fly on the Wall

Hummel and 6 other reps are in bed with the company. That's not enough for a real conspiracy...You need the entire NAC, they brought the thing to you. The entire BPR asked the NAC to go get the items that are in the MOUII. Don't forget General Counsel, Brian O'Dwyer, Merger Counsel Pat Szymansk and Professional Negotiator Roland Wilder.

There were also others who were consulted so include them also. Hell, they are probably all in on it. It's a total conspiracy, officers, all the NAC half the BPR and all the advisors.

Is it time for your medication yet?

 

[Al Legheny]

-----Forwarded Message-----
From: Wall Fly
Sent: Jan 27, 2013 4:05 PM
To: undisclosed-recipients@null, null@null
Subject: MOU need to know

The Rest of the Story

By the Fly on the Wall



The Unanimous Vote

There’s been a lot of conjecture about the possibility that 5 members of the BPR who voted to recommend membership approval of the MOU actually don’t support it and will personally vote against it during ratification. That is true, they will vote against it. In addition, 2 east pilots who sat in during a portion of deliberations as DDR’s (duly designated representatives) will also vote against the MOU. If you’re skeptical, give them a call and ask. These are the representatives and DDR’s.

Bill McKee
Steve Crimi
DeWitt Ingram
Steve Szpyrka
Mike Gilles
Paul Diorio (DDR)
Mike Martin (DDR)

This is obviously causing a lot of confusion on the line. How could 7 east pilots who had a hand in deliberating the MOU not actually be supportive of it? After all, it was a unanimous vote, right?

The reason isn’t that complicated. Here is why there was a unanimous vote without actual unanimous support of the MOU:

· The 5 members of the BPR (and 2 DDR’s) believe that President Hummel is working in collusion with the Company and he is being enabled by 6 BPR members (3 PHX, 2 DCA, 1 PHL). As a result, they believe that the MOU is the best we can do absent a recall of the Officers or a change in the BPR (PHL election), or…a rejection by the membership.
· The 5 demanded extra cash for our pilots (pay beginning on the date of ratification). When they did this, one of the 5 offered a unanimous vote to secure the pay. He did not have the consensus of the 5.

The 5 voted for you to approve the MOU not because they thought it was a good agreement but because they absolutely knew the other 6 were going to approve it with a 6-5 vote and decided if that was going to happen they needed to use their leverage to secure some additional pay, and that’s just what they did. But, and this is a monumental but….they do not want the membership to ratify the agreement.

A Little History

The 7 pilots named above believe that the Officers, particularly Gary Hummel, are working in collusion with the Company and will be rewarded someday by the company, a la Assistant Chief Pilot Bill Pollock. These Officers are being enabled by 6 members of the BPR – 3 PHX, 2 DCA, 1 PHL (Weidner) so they routinely lose votes 6-5. On January 3rd after hours of heated debate it was obvious the 6 were going to force a vote on the MOU and there was no doubt it would pass 6-5. Immediately prior to that the 6 members of the BPR, all 4 NAC members, 3 of 4 Officers, the Comm. Chairman and the Scope Chairman and a few more had all verbalized their belief that the MOU as presented was “the best we could do” and there was “nothing more left on the table”. Only a moment before the vote would have been forced, Vice Chairman Steve Crimi asked each member of the 5 if he had permission to speak for the group and they each replied “yes”. He then addressed the BPR and informed them that if the vote was forced right then, the 5 members would call for a “division” (roll call) and the MOU would fail. (When a “division” is called each BPR member votes for each pilot they represent. In that case, the 5 members have more votes than the 6)

After a cacophony of outbursts from the 6 subsided, an ultimatum was given…If the company meets a specific demand – which was given moments later - the 5 would still vote against the MOU, but they would not call for a division to prevail and the MOU would pass 6 -5. Soon after the ultimatum was given, one of the 5 offered a unanimous vote. That offer by one member of the 5 has proved very problematic because as a result, the 5 are being censored from communicating their true feelings about the MOU.


Why Didn’t the Five Use Division to Stop the MOU if They Didn’t Support it?

Unlike at ALPA, a Division of the house can only be used for very specific purposes under the USAPA Constitution. Here’s the language

“Division of the house shall be permitted only for votes taken to approve or reject any tentative agreements affecting income, work rule change(s), and/or benefit(s); setting parameters for collective bargaining; agreements on affiliation or merger with another labor organization; agreements arising from a merger of, or successor transactions involving the employer, or its parent (including seniority integration agreements); and amendments to the Constitution and Bylaws. On a Division of the house vote, each member of the Board shall be entitled to vote equal percentages of the active members in good standing…”

The 5 did not call for a division of the house to stop the MOU because they knew if the MOU failed at the BPR level that additional actions would needed to be taken and these actions would come in the form of directives through BPR resolutions. At that point, a call for division would not be available under the Constitution and any action the 5 thought necessary would likely be voted down 6-5 again. It is also particularly difficult to direct the President and lawyers and committees to do certain things when the President - who oversees both Legal Counsel and the Committees - does not support such actions. With these things in mind, the 5 chose instead to use the threat of division to secure an additional gain for the pilots should the membership approve the MOU. Do not take this to mean they support the MOU and want you to ratify it. They do not.

The Quickest Way to a Better Lifestyle?

You may have noticed that USAPA continues telling the membership that the BPR and President “believes this MOU is the quickest and surest path to a better lifestyle for us all.” Has anyone ever seen a resolution the BPR voted on that says such a thing? No, of course no one has because it doesn’t exist. This statement was never endorsed by the BPR. It’s simply part of the USAPA sales job.


Did the 6 Support the Retro Pay Date of February 8th?

Ted Reed, who for years covered US Airways for the Charlotte Observer recently wrote an article for The Street.com that was picked up by Forbes. In it he gave credit to the CLT Reps. and 2 PHL Reps. for making a unanimous vote possible by their demand for additional pay. Subsequent to the story he sent out a revised version suggesting that some of the 6 also supported the demand for additional pay. So what happened? Why did Ted Reed change his story to now suggest that maybe the 6 also played a role? Simple; when the original story came out, the 6 were outraged that credit was being given where it was due and one of the DCA Reps. communicated to Ted Reed that they also were supportive. After Ted Reed heard from enough people demanding that he change history, he rewrote the story with the addition of the suggestion that it wasn’t only the 5 who sought a change. He got it both right and wrong by the way. The 6 Reps. were indeed supportive…right after they were made aware that they had no other choice because the 5 were going to call for division. For PHX, DCA, or Jamie Weidner to suggest they had any part in securing the retro pay is absolute hogwash. Remember, the threat of division was not made until 16 people – yes 16 total! – had given their opinion that the MOU was the best that could be done and no more was available, including the 6 BPR members who afterwards sought credit through Ted Reed. As it turned out, they were all wrong, except for the 5 of course. The 6 were going to force a vote and vote yes without the pay date being moved back to the date of ratification.

The Dividing Line

Apparently last week at the NAC roadshow in CLT, Steve Crimi more than once explained to the membership why, in his opinion, we didn’t secure real retroactive pay or an equity stake similar to APA’s. He politely dismissed the excuse the NAC had just given about us not having “a claim” in bankruptcy court and instead spoke of a dividing line amongst the BPR and also amongst the line pilots. The dividing line being between those who think we have real leverage and those who think we don’t. He explained that clearly 5 members on the BPR believe we have significant leverage and 6 members don’t. He went on to summarize that the reason we didn’t secure real retro pay or an equity stake was because the USAPA leadership (President and 6 members of the BPR) refused to use the available leverage. You could tell he had more to say, but avoiding the politics seemed to be important to him.

What Now?

It’s pretty obvious USAPA is selling this MOU to the pilots. The material mailed to you contains only the good and none of the bad. It doesn’t even contain the MOU itself and that’s what you are voting on. This MOU will get a tremendous amount of “no” votes. It would get even more - perhaps even fail - if the pilots understand that saying “no” is not the end of the game. If the pilots say “no” that would be the 3rd strike against the NAC and the President and the other Officers. The 5 member minority of the BPR would get the message (maybe even the 6 would finally get the message) loud and clear from the pilots that “we are behind you and we expect you to get more”. They would be emboldened to make use of “division” to dictate negotiations which they are allowed to do, and you can expect they would make significant changes to the NAC and our bargaining positions. It would also be likely someone in the membership would start a recall attempt against the President and maybe the entire Officer corps. It’s a very similar scenario to what happened at APA after the leadership said to pass the LBFO and it overwhelmingly failed. From there they moved forward and were able to improve on the first agreement.

The Dividing Line Revisited and the Possible Paths

Do we really have leverage? The 5 think they proved it to a degree when 16 people in positions of authority in the union said “there is no more available” and the very next day the company offered another $50 to $100 million.

If the leverage is real and the membership says “no”, the company will be back in short order to improve their offer. If the leverage is not real then the company will attempt to do the deal without us which would simply mean a delay in working under the APA contract. But since the APA contract has many, many pitfalls because of a poor MOU, is that really much of a risk at all? If there is a delay, then you would enjoy significant forward movement due to your long awaited attrition that just began in December.

The MOU and NAC Misrepresentations

Here are a few topics the NAC is misrepresenting:


· Pay protection
· Minimum block hours
· E190 fleet size
· B-Scale
· The value of your Change of Control language

Pay Protection

There are two types of pay protection in the MOU and both are being misrepresented by the NAC. They continue to pretend that if you are displaced from your equipment (pay protection I) or onto the E190 (pay protection II) you will be pay protected. It’s nonsense and it’s irresponsible for the NAC to lead pilots to believe there is pay protection in an attempt to get this MOU to pass. Why not just tell the pilots the facts and let them decide?

Here’s the pertinent language for pay protection for displacement:

Any US Airways pilot as of the Effective Date who is thereafter involuntarily displaced to a
lower paying position shall be pay protected. The pay protections of this Paragraph shall continue
unchanged if the affected pilot(s) suffer(s) multiple displacements, but shall end whenever such
pilot(s) can hold the position from which the pilot was originally displaced or an equivalent or greater
pay position.

Do you understand what it means? It means you won’t be pay protected unless you can’t hold a piece of equipment that pays the same anywhere in the system. So, if you get displaced out of your Airbus Captain seat in CLT and you can hold MD80 Captain in Chicago…no pay protection.

Here’s the E190 pay protection language:

Commencing on the date of single operating certificate for US Airways and New American
Airlines or their successors (if any), all pilots, who have established and maintain seniority on the US
Airways mainline system and who are eligible for furlough protection pursuant to Paragraph 11 above,
will be paid in accordance with the Group I pay rates as set forth in Paragraph 22 when flying a Group
I aircraft except for the following pay protection: a Group I captain shall be paid at Group III first officer
pay rates unless the captain can hold a Group III first officer or higher-paying position; a Group I first
officer shall be paid at Group II first officer pay rates unless the first officer can hold a Group II first
officer or higher-paying position.

Do you understand what it means? It means if you get displaced to the E190 Captain you won’t be pay protected to your previous equipment if you can hold a group III F/O (767). Both of these pay protections are useless, yet the NAC is advertising that there is pay protection. Why? NAC Chairman Dean Colello admitted that Scott Kirby himself said he probably will never pay a dime in pay protection. Why isn’t that in the mailer from USAPA?

E190 Fleet Size

Now that you know the pay protections are worthless let’s discuss how many E190’s the company is allowed. The NAC has been asked numerous times at roadshows what prevents the company from flooding the airline with E190’s. They are quick to point out it’s not allowed during the interim protections because the E190 isn’t included in the minimum block hour provision. It is true that they are not included in the minimums but that doesn’t prohibit the company from getting just as many as they want. True, they would have to be in addition to aircraft covered under the minimum block hour language so that’s OK. But let’s be clear…the company can get as many E190’s as they desire.

The bigger question of course is how many E190’s can the company get after the interim block hour protections expire? The NAC has also been asked this numerous times and Dean Colello’s answer has been ridiculous. When he was asked in CLT he answered – with a straight face – that even though the company could replace every MD-80 and old 737 with E190’s he doesn’t think it will be a problem because Embraer can’t build the airplanes fast enough. No, this isn’t a joke. Long term you have no protection from the company getting hundreds of E190’s with a new B-scale but the NAC doesn’t think it’s a problem because of limitations on manufacturing rates.

The New B-Scale

Already famous for the launch of the B-scale in the 80’s, the APA has done it again with the E190 Captain rate of $114/hr. It is true the airplane is included in the parity review on January 1, 2016 and is expected to be brought up to $147 an hour but since the parity review is done by adding a certain percentage increase to an artificially low rate, the $147 will reflect well below industry standard for the E190. To make matters worse, the NAC is avoiding telling you that contained in the APA contract is the following language:

Neither party shall, without the written consent of the other party, seek to modify the pay relationship (i.e. ratio) set forth in Section 3.E. between Group I and Groups II – V through the processes of the Railway Labor Act for a period of two (2) contract cycles or ten (10) years from DOS, whichever is later.


Do you understand what it means? It means the B-scale E190 rates will be here for over a decade before APA is even allowed to discuss it with management. They have agreed to not bring it up for 10 years or two Section 6 negotiating cycles whichever is longer.

And how did the APA go about mitigating the lower E190 pay? With this language:

Pilots flying Group I aircraft may pick-up as restricted only by FAR limits.

This is the only fleet that is allowed a cap of FAR limits. It looks like this was the APA’s way of addressing the lower hourly pay.

Block Hour Protections

The NAC is leading pilots to believe that the block hour minimums in the MOU are an improvement from your current contract. They are not. The block hour minimums you enjoy now are calculated as actual block hours. The minimums in the MOU are calculated as scheduled block hours. In an average month, actual block hours flown end up being around 95% of scheduled. When you apply this ratio you will find that the MOU number is a concession. More importantly is that the East is presently flying about 9% above the contractual limits and is very likely to reduce all the way to the new MOU limits once the code share with American is allowed. Do the math, 9 % to the current contractual limits and an additional 5% to the MOU minimums. Assuming the New American will live up to its “no furlough” commitment it is likely that they will shrink at the rate of attrition which means the East will take the brunt of the reductions since the West’s attrition rate is almost non-existent and they are already near their contractual minimums.

As a reminder, the “actual” versus “scheduled” block hour minimum is something your union fought hard to retain and won in grievance only to give it away in the MOU.



Widebody Protection

The NAC is very proud of the wide-body protections in the MOU. They continually remind you that you don’t have any widebody minimum block hour protections in your contract and they were able to negotiate them for you in the MOU. Unfortunately they aren’t telling you the whole story because you currently do have protections for every route flown by a widebody. It’s called a code share prohibition and it’s found in Section 1 of your contract. If the company wants to serve an international city with a widebody, a US Airways pilot will be in the cockpit with only a couple exceptions. For the NAC to tell you that you don’t have widebody protections in your contract is extremely misleading.



Have you looked at the widebody protection language in the MOU? Here it is:

“The number of widebody positions, either maintained or pay protected, for US
Airways pilots shall be no less than 291 US Airways widebody captain positions and 475 US
Airways widebody first officer positions.”

It jumps out that the number of protected positions is less than those in the March bid – 9% by the way. What is often overlooked is this important language, “…either maintained or pay protected…”. It is the “or pay protected” that you need to be acutely aware of. What it means is if the company decides to retire the entire A330 fleet, all they would need to do to abide by the MOU would be pay the pilots the difference between the A330 hourly rate and what the pilot was displaced to.

The Value of Your Change of Control

The NAC sent you a Q & A on January 25th. It was another in a series of educational pieces meant to persuade you to vote “yes” on the MOU. In it the NAC provided you with their take on the valuation of the change of control being triggered versus signing onto the MOU. Their valuation is pointless because the value of the Change of Control does not come from it being triggered. The value of the Change of Control is to force the company to the table. The Change of Control is for sale, and right now your President, NAC and 6 members of the BPR are encouraging you to sell it for a fraction of its true worth. Only a few years ago, Doug Parker in an interview with Ted Reed said a merger couldn’t be done with the Change of Control language in place. Vote “no” and the company will be back.



Sincerely,

The Fly on the Wall

Hummel and 6 other reps are in bed with the company. That's not enough for a real conspiracy...You need the entire NAC, they brought the thing to you. The entire BPR asked the NAC to go get the items that are in the MOUII. Don't forget General Counsel, Brian O'Dwyer, Merger Counsel Pat Szymansk and Professional Negotiator Roland Wilder.

There were also others who were consulted so include them also. Hell, they are probably all in on it. It's a total conspiracy, officers, all the NAC half the BPR and all the advisors.

Is it time for your medication yet?

 

[EastUS1]

Let me get this straight. The "five" guys politically polar to Hummel are saying his is a stooge. You bet. Must be true.Greeter

I'd suggest that notions of his working in collusion with the company exceed the mere use of stooge here and I erred in initially assigning such a trivial term.

FIVE of the very-few-in-numbers BPR members hold this view, and your best efforts at quelling any now-reasonable doubts here are but: "You bet. Must be true."...? All FIVE hold their beliefs based purely on personal and political spite?

 

[Pi brat]

I see your point. They have two choices:

1). If we don't give them a MOU they will be able to proceed with the merger without us, and even better for them, they will be able to avoid any pay raises at all because they will be able to keep us on LOA 93! And still get their $1.2-$1.5 Billion in increased revenues. Our loss pays for the merger and they make more, just because they can... Or,

2) They buy our cooperation (as you put) via an MOU. But not because they need our cooperation (option one would obviously be more profitable for them).. Why? Because they are nice and we are cool?


Yes, proof.

You don't see anything. The MOU is the easy way, but not the only. If plan A doesn't work, they will try plan B. But if they do plan B, they will no longer be will to act like they are playing nice with us. THAT is what I believe is our power and I think we have used it for what we can get because the fork in the road is coming.

Not proof. You have yet to give me your outline of what you think happens with a no vote and nothing on Parker saying he has to have relief on C of C. Not that I expect either from you. You just sit back and snipe.

 

[EastUS1]

Is it time for your medication yet?

That might be a better received suggestion from something other than a very lengthy double-posting that just ate up an entire page with it's redundance.

 

[cleardirect]

Dear sir, are you trying to suggest that one could surmise the desires of one' opponent by the clarity of their request? Even perhaps the intensity of their desires by the clarity and frequency of their request? Oh rubbish! Just because DUI has repeatedly said he wants a merger, and has repeatedly said he can't have a merger if CoC remains, and has repeatedly asked for CoC to be relinquished, and has once again made it more clear than anything else in the MOU ...

... Oh my wow.. wow! Have you seen this beautiful glossy brochure! You must get yourself a copy! It simply a stunning sight to behold! It's so wonderful to see cheer leaders again! It was getting so drab and negative around here. Oh, I beg your pardon. Did I interrupt you? Yes, go ahead what were you saying?

Would that also apply to the unrelenting demand for DOH from east pilots?

usapa has been very clear they are willing to give away everything in exchange for DOH.

What did Seham say in one of his videos? Willing to trade a cost neutral contract for labor peace. Except labor peace would not come with DOH.

 

[EastUS1]

.... they will no longer be will to act like they are playing nice with us.

As if such has ever been the case, and why should anyone in the work force reasonably care the least bit about what they "act like" but rather what they do and what's contractually concerned and bargained for here?

 

[3dtv]

Hummel and 6 other reps are in bed with the company. That's not enough for a real conspiracy...You need the entire NAC, they brought the thing to you. The entire BPR asked the NAC to go get the items that are in the MOUII. Don't forget General Counsel, Brian O'Dwyer, Merger Counsel Pat Szymansk and Professional Negotiator Roland Wilder.

There were also others who were consulted so include them also. Hell, they are probably all in on it. It's a total conspiracy, officers, all the NAC half the BPR and all the advisors.

Is it time for your medication yet?

How about this post from another board:

"Geez….the part about the unanimous vote was funny. What a keystone kops operation by the 5. They say they won’t call division if they get retro and then one of the 5 blurts out unscripted “we’ll make it unanimous”! And that is how they came to vote unanimous? Man, that is outrageously funny.

Kind of like, Eric and Dave, when Swatman said, “Now let’s re-elect Pollock”! You guys fell right in line….NOT!

Second, if I thought the deal was a bad one….I would not squander my leverage until I get something I could support (which, ironically appears to be what they did. The retro is their heroic idea in the story)……now they say……well we used our leverage to get more….promised unanimous support…..but we still didn’t like it and will vote No. We were just kidding with our fellow BPR members and pilots. That is representation?
...

These guys kill me….they got to go. They are truly idiots and must go...... No courage….no integrity."

 

[cleardirect]

Now this might change things. Can you quote for me where Doug says he can't have an AA merger with the CofC? I remember a crew news where he said just the opposite. If you know for sure that he can't do it without getting rid of CofC, despite what the NAC and our attorneys say, then maybe we do have more power than I thought. Looking forward to the facts, you left me hanging on my other requests.

You berate the "glossy brochure" but you know our pilot group. Many of them won't even read that unless someone delivers it from the mailbox and places it in their hands. It was a highlight, and many other resources have been provided if one is interested in looking at them or attending the roadshows.

Interesting how now some east pilots are beginning to question the credibility of other east pilots. Most of you all agreed with whatever these guys said about seniority and the Nicolau.

Could it be that they were also wrong about the the subject of seniority, Mike Cleary, the 5 hard core reps and usapa too?

 

[CallawayGolf]

OK. I'll admit that you've completely lost me with that "logic" sir. Does not Parker trying to do a merger greatly enhance the bargaining position of the US workers as well?

No, a unified and rational-thinking workgroup enhances a bargaining position. USAPA has neither and the last five years are proof of what they are capable of - i.e. taking the crumbs that fall from the table.

 

[Walmartgreeter]

I'd suggest that notions of his working in collusion with the company exceed the mere use of stooge here and I erred in initially assigning such a trivial term.

FIVE of the very-few-in-numbers BPR members hold this view, and your best efforts at quelling any now-reasonable doubts here are but: "You bet. Must be true."...? All FIVE hold their beliefs based purely on personal and political spite?

You are a real piece of work. Lies and innuendo now somehow become fact because of a "supposed" number of BPR members actually believe he is in bed with Parker (oops, bad visual, sorry.) And millions believe the World Trade Center was rigged with explosives, set off by Bigfoot with Obama's birth certificate as a fuse. Must be true, and must be reasonable because so many deem it true. "Reasonable" doubts. That's it?Greeter

 

[EastUS1]

You are a real piece of work. Lies and innuendo now somehow become fact because of a "supposed" number of BPR members actually believe he is in bed with Parker

"Lies and innuendo now somehow become fact.."? By no means. You're the posted source for this issue. I'm essentially just asking WTF's going on around here? If all you can field in response to honest questions arising from, and observations about what you posted regarding that are such gems as "must be true" and "You are a real piece of work."..well...you've surrendered your spot as any supposedly "rational", much less "thinking" person here.