Cwa Meetings With The Company Over 3 Days...news?
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Ramp Rogue
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CWA keeps you more informed than the It's A Mystery does!
Since they were to be meeting for 3 days and today is the final day, hopefully they will have something out tonight or early tomorrow morning addressing the meeting.
Did anyone see the company info that the original proposal by CWA would COST the company (I think it said) $42 million MORE next year? Does anyone know HOW this could be if they were cutting things out of the package? I just find a $42 increase in costs hard to believe and I'd be interested in seeing where the company was getting that number if anyone has any info. ( I saw this in a newspaper article someone had posted at work where a company spokesman said this, but cant find the article any more.)
Did anyone see the company info that the original proposal by CWA would COST the company (I think it said) $42 million MORE next year? Does anyone know HOW this could be if they were cutting things out of the package? I just find a $42 increase in costs hard to believe and I'd be interested in seeing where the company was getting that number if anyone has any info. ( I saw this in a newspaper article someone had posted at work where a company spokesman said this, but cant find the article any more.)
28yrsnojob
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:down: CWA is probably selling out the small stations to psa.
deltawatch
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IM guessing the first offer was higher next year because of the buyout. After that it would save a lot of money.
Res said:
CWA Fights for Passenger Agents, Flight Attendants
September 27, 2004
CWA is fighting back against US Airways' demands to slash salaries, benefits and working conditions for passenger agents and flight attendants as the company filed for bankruptcy protection for the second time.
US Airways management has petitioned the bankruptcy court to impose "interim relief" pay cuts of 23 percent and other extreme givebacks on nearly all union workers while it continues to press for even more concessions.
The airline filed for bankruptcy on Sept. 12. Over the next several weeks, hearings will be held by the bankruptcy judge on the airline's petition for the "interim relief" and other issues.
CWA and AFA-CWA, along with the air line pilots and machinists unions, were appointed to the creditors committee, which will be an important part of the decision-making process.
The CWA local presidents bargaining committee, representing passenger service agents, is preparing for three days of bargaining this week with US Airways management over the company's demands for devastating wage and benefit cuts. At the same time, AFA-CWA's negotiating committee continues to work on its response to management's "excessive and inequitable" demands as the bankruptcy process goes forward.
Agents and flight attendants have called on management to detail the non-labor cost savings and cost savings from management and administrative employees, as well as changes to the executive compensation plan that should be a part of the airline's restructuring.
To date, management has been very specific about concessions from union represented employees, and in fact has proposed cutting the take-home pay for agents nearly in half, yet it has provided no evidence it will lead by example, the CWA local presidents pointed out. Management also has not convinced workers that it has a plan to successfully emerge from bankruptcy, AFA-CWA said.
CWA represents 6,000 active and 3,000 furloughed passenger service agents at US Airways; AFA-CWA represents 5,200 flight attendants.
THIS CAME ACROSS THE CWA WEBSITE AT 12:17 EDT ! TODAY ! THEY HAVE BEEN MEETING SINCE 1:00P EDT MONDAY AND THEY CAME OUT WITH THIS TODAY ?
Light Years
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LGA / 037 said:
Two questions...
I know AFA and CWA are together now, but should F/As be looking under CWA for info now?
Do they negotiate together or seperately?
And to be picky, why list the active and inactive agents, and then the only the active F/As...
LGA / 037 said:
I got this in an email earlier this week (notice dated the 27th?). Are you signed up for the eline from them? If not, I'd suggest doing so since you'll get the info much quicker and wont have to search the website to get updates.
LY- Only thing I can think of is CWA-Passenger Service issued the news release and didnt have the FA info. I dont think the two groups are that close yet in regards to actual negotiations, etc. They are still separate bargaining groups just affiliated with each other.
livingontheedge
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tadjr,
In your earlier post today you mentioned the company stating that the CWA proposal would COST the company money....see the filing for emergency relief on transformingusairways.com website. Its a long document, but is in laymans terms, not legalese. Very interesting how ALPA and AFA merit fancy color coded graphs and CWA merits one paragraph......
Also notice how the company estimates they will lose 900 million in revenue between the bk filing date and March 2005 due to "booking away" from all the publicity regarding the bk. Since the Chairman of the Board had a lot of things to say regarding "bama air" and "worth more to me liquidated than alive" etc. etc. I think he should throw in the 900 million!
In your earlier post today you mentioned the company stating that the CWA proposal would COST the company money....see the filing for emergency relief on transformingusairways.com website. Its a long document, but is in laymans terms, not legalese. Very interesting how ALPA and AFA merit fancy color coded graphs and CWA merits one paragraph......
Also notice how the company estimates they will lose 900 million in revenue between the bk filing date and March 2005 due to "booking away" from all the publicity regarding the bk. Since the Chairman of the Board had a lot of things to say regarding "bama air" and "worth more to me liquidated than alive" etc. etc. I think he should throw in the 900 million!
CWA and company are very far apart right now....the values placed on the various items being proposed are no where near each bean counters numbers.....the only vote that will take place will be a tentative agreement on a whole new contract sometime in the future...this 23pct paycut will be administered just not sure how it will breakdown ....whether a larger per hour cut or a smaller paycut and loss of certain benefits and perks ......they are still in DCA as of Thursday(today) to continue to talk but they are very far apart on how the 23pct should be handled.........after the cuts for 6 month are in place new negotiations will take place to "permanently" alter the existing contract....that should be pretty heavy duty bargaining....thats when everyone will get a chance to vote on something......
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IAM SHOULD STOP CWA FROM TAKING IAM JOBS IN SMALL CITIES
****** UPDATE RCVD 9/30/04
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Additional stories are available on www.CWA.net
CWA update for September 30th, 2004...
CWA'ers have been meeting with management since Monday, trying to reduce the 23 percent emergency 6 month pay cut demand the company has asked the bankruptcy court to impose on passenger service agents and other groups.
CWA'ers are trying to protect the bi-weekly paycheck as much as possible by proposing to freeze some alternative, non-salary items for a period of six months (such as holidays, retirement contributions, etc.).
If any agreement is reached, it will be sent to our members to vote on. Presumably, management would ask the judge to impose the 23 percent pay cut anyway if an alternative is not ratified.
Backtracking on the Early Out Proposal: Management now refuses to include the Early Out Program - which we began discussing with management last April - as part of these discussions. An early out program would drastically reduce the amount of a pay cut needed because senior, higher paid employees could volunteer to take the early out and would be replaced by lower paid employees. This plan would save tens of millions of dollars each year.
Management now says, "There's not enough time to institute the Early Out Program" (we've been talking to them about it since April), or they say, "It won't save any money" (believe us folks, it would save millions - that's why Southwest and Continental management are doing it), or they say, "The board of directors wouldn't approve it."
Rumors that management will take a 20 percent pay cut: That's what they are - rumors. We have asked repeatedly at the bargaining table whether management will take exact salary cuts or benefit cuts like the rest of the employees and we get no concrete answers. We suspect management intends to say a large part of their own "contribution" will come in the form of furloughs or job loss through attrition. That ignores the fact that employees have already suffered enormous numbers of furloughs, and management is still demanding cash pay and benefit cuts.
Six months? Management has asked the bankruptcy court for cuts lasting 6 months on an emergency basis. But let's not kid ourselves. These people intend to come back and ask for more, longer lasting cuts as soon as they get these.
We'll keep you informed of further meetings with management.
CWA Local Officers and Staff
CWA Passenger Service Hotline Message (800) 559-0579
PLEASE POST AND DISTRIBUTE TO YOUR CO-WORKERS
Additional stories are available on www.CWA.net
CWA update for September 30th, 2004...
CWA'ers have been meeting with management since Monday, trying to reduce the 23 percent emergency 6 month pay cut demand the company has asked the bankruptcy court to impose on passenger service agents and other groups.
CWA'ers are trying to protect the bi-weekly paycheck as much as possible by proposing to freeze some alternative, non-salary items for a period of six months (such as holidays, retirement contributions, etc.).
If any agreement is reached, it will be sent to our members to vote on. Presumably, management would ask the judge to impose the 23 percent pay cut anyway if an alternative is not ratified.
Backtracking on the Early Out Proposal: Management now refuses to include the Early Out Program - which we began discussing with management last April - as part of these discussions. An early out program would drastically reduce the amount of a pay cut needed because senior, higher paid employees could volunteer to take the early out and would be replaced by lower paid employees. This plan would save tens of millions of dollars each year.
Management now says, "There's not enough time to institute the Early Out Program" (we've been talking to them about it since April), or they say, "It won't save any money" (believe us folks, it would save millions - that's why Southwest and Continental management are doing it), or they say, "The board of directors wouldn't approve it."
Rumors that management will take a 20 percent pay cut: That's what they are - rumors. We have asked repeatedly at the bargaining table whether management will take exact salary cuts or benefit cuts like the rest of the employees and we get no concrete answers. We suspect management intends to say a large part of their own "contribution" will come in the form of furloughs or job loss through attrition. That ignores the fact that employees have already suffered enormous numbers of furloughs, and management is still demanding cash pay and benefit cuts.
Six months? Management has asked the bankruptcy court for cuts lasting 6 months on an emergency basis. But let's not kid ourselves. These people intend to come back and ask for more, longer lasting cuts as soon as they get these.
We'll keep you informed of further meetings with management.
CWA Local Officers and Staff
CWA Passenger Service Hotline Message (800) 559-0579
