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a320says:
700UW says:
Where is the proof? This is just your speculation once again.
a320 says:
700UW says:
Where is the proof? This is just your speculation once again.
a320says:
700UW says:
Once again Section 1113 negotiations will have to take place by law before any abrogation can occur, but you been told this a million times and care to keep ignoring the LAW! For example UAL filed several weeks ago an 1114 motion (that is the abrogation not 1113) to increase retiree medical cost, judge denied the motion and ordered UAL to go back to the table.
And the company's plan is to eliminate 900+ utility workers, 200 + stock clerks and go down to 800 mechanics, it is a no win situation for the maintenance department as the company wants to basically eliminate and outsource. (Just remember ValuJet).
a320 says:
700UW says:
You are still $64 million short of the company's goal and why do you keep "pounding your chest" into other union's business that does not effect you and you will not have a choice in the matter, so keep to your union and its business and stay out of mine.
Because you don't even have the intestinal fortitude to keep to your word. We all remember how you hated Dave when they terminated your pension and you told the whole board you were quitting and taking a foriegn flying job and you would be ok cause you wife works, funny I guess your word means nothing, but we all figured that out a long long time ago.
a320says:
Each union has been told of that two-track approach and that airline has once again hired John Lutz and the Seabury Group and FTI Consulting to handle financial negotiations. In addition, the company has replaced long time legal advisors from the firm of Skadden & Arps with Arnold and Porter who apparently will be the legal advisors for the second formal reorganization.
700UW says:
Where is the proof? This is just your speculation once again.
a320 says:
Separately, the company is in talks with the ATSB and key lenders to preserve the loan guarantee and the security. Therefore, iof true, DIP financing may not be necessary and RSA could maintain control of the company and its investment through the restructuring. In fact, I understand Bruce Lakefield's financial background, where his top position as the former president of Lehman Brothers - Europe, will be important in this effort.
700UW says:
Where is the proof? This is just your speculation once again.
a320says:
Thus, if any labor group does not participate in the new business plan and attempts to hold the restructuring hostage, then the company will likely file for bankruptcy, file motions to change the contracts, which could include total outsourcing of a work group.
If any union does not like the new agreement, they are free to seek self-help and the company could use people who cross the picket line to man line positions and outsource all other work. Thus, who wins then?
700UW says:
Once again Section 1113 negotiations will have to take place by law before any abrogation can occur, but you been told this a million times and care to keep ignoring the LAW! For example UAL filed several weeks ago an 1114 motion (that is the abrogation not 1113) to increase retiree medical cost, judge denied the motion and ordered UAL to go back to the table.
And the company's plan is to eliminate 900+ utility workers, 200 + stock clerks and go down to 800 mechanics, it is a no win situation for the maintenance department as the company wants to basically eliminate and outsource. (Just remember ValuJet).
a320 says:
Apparently the ALPA “hardline†MEC understands this because they provided the company with a pay cut proposal larger than what the company suggested. ALPA is preparing itself for the next "judicial restructuring" and I understand a pilot agreement, along with some of the other unions, will be If they did, why would they pound their chest on the message board?
Respectfully,
USA320Pilot
700UW says:
You are still $64 million short of the company's goal and why do you keep "pounding your chest" into other union's business that does not effect you and you will not have a choice in the matter, so keep to your union and its business and stay out of mine.
Because you don't even have the intestinal fortitude to keep to your word. We all remember how you hated Dave when they terminated your pension and you told the whole board you were quitting and taking a foriegn flying job and you would be ok cause you wife works, funny I guess your word means nothing, but we all figured that out a long long time ago.