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http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04232/363794.stm
Same old tactics, glad to see things have not changed, NOT!
Same old tactics, glad to see things have not changed, NOT!
Company Asks Pilots For Steeper Paycuts
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to much time to quit
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- Jun 17, 2003
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Oh 320, times a wasting, lets rally your boys to get this done asap. You must avoid the pain, and get that S1113 letter signed to preserve the pension. Oh thats right the company lied about that to yous guys. 
BoeingBoy
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700,
The article doesn't do it justice.
Based on the valuation that ALPA put on it's initial proposal (12.5% paycut, 90 hours per month), just the pay/pension part of this is worth at least $550 million. Then there's all the "productivity improvements".
Jim
The article doesn't do it justice.
Based on the valuation that ALPA put on it's initial proposal (12.5% paycut, 90 hours per month), just the pay/pension part of this is worth at least $550 million. Then there's all the "productivity improvements".
Jim
USA320Pilot
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The company's August 17 proposal to ALPA likely far exceeds the $295 million cost cut target. It appears the company is over reaching to obtain a TA to reach management's goal.
ALPA and the company are working overtime with the desire to have a TA by this weekend. Then the attention will turn to the other labor groups.
In regard to the IAM, there is reason to believe the company may not be interested in talking with the union and may have another option in mind. On the surface, the company may talk with the union, but there appears to be other options.
Respectfully,
USA320Pilot
ALPA and the company are working overtime with the desire to have a TA by this weekend. Then the attention will turn to the other labor groups.
In regard to the IAM, there is reason to believe the company may not be interested in talking with the union and may have another option in mind. On the surface, the company may talk with the union, but there appears to be other options.
Respectfully,
USA320Pilot
BoeingBoy
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"The company's August 17 proposal to ALPA likely far exceeds the $295 million cost cut target."
I don't think there's any "likely" to it - there's no doubt. To keep the current DC pension plan intact, my hourly rate would be within $10 of the MDA TOS. And lest anyone forget, that's based on the Am Eagle 50-seater pay scales.
Jim
I don't think there's any "likely" to it - there's no doubt. To keep the current DC pension plan intact, my hourly rate would be within $10 of the MDA TOS. And lest anyone forget, that's based on the Am Eagle 50-seater pay scales.
Jim
OldGuyinPA
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Respectfully..
No need to turn their attention to other work groups..
The answer will be....No
Respectfully..
Respectfully..
Respectfully..
No need to turn their attention to other work groups..
The answer will be....No
Respectfully..
Respectfully..
Respectfully..
BoeingBoy
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ISP,
Thanks for the sentiment. While I'm sure there are other pilots (especially the more junior but yet older) who will suffer if (when) this place goes under, as well as many others in the various workgroups, I won't be among them.
As long as the PBGC doesn't go under, I'll get more in retirement than a lot of folks make working here now. Kinda allows a different perspective on the whole thing.
No, the one's to feel sorry for are all the men and women who ask nothing more than an honest days wage for an honest days work and a decent retirement at the end of a long career. They are having both taken from them by those who feel that all these employees are "liabilities", as Bronner said in one article.
Jim
Thanks for the sentiment. While I'm sure there are other pilots (especially the more junior but yet older) who will suffer if (when) this place goes under, as well as many others in the various workgroups, I won't be among them.
As long as the PBGC doesn't go under, I'll get more in retirement than a lot of folks make working here now. Kinda allows a different perspective on the whole thing.
No, the one's to feel sorry for are all the men and women who ask nothing more than an honest days wage for an honest days work and a decent retirement at the end of a long career. They are having both taken from them by those who feel that all these employees are "liabilities", as Bronner said in one article.
Jim
USA320Pilot said:
And this reporter sees these other options widening the painful clause to include the entire work force not wanting to be insensitive and leaving anyone group out, therefore in the best interest of everyone concerned, employees, money people, cities left in limbo, u will commit harry carry and end it relieving all parties of the constant agony once and for all. Of course this pain clause has in it a provision that the top level executives walk away with ten million each.
usfliboi
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Its people like some of u that "represent" the fine IAM, that give you guys a bad name. The majority of Iam want to talk and do whats best for them and the company. The sad thing is, ego's are bruised. In the end IAM wont need to talk. I predict a BK filing, and i believ US is trying its best not to enter into BK. It sounds like these guys are scared, as if they no US wont come out. Sad but true.
