Common Core-In Your Schools

Ifly2 said:
I suppose one could call anything brainwashing.

I can take an objective look back at my expensive parochial school education, and honestly say that they tried. And tried damn hard, quite possibly without even knowing it, since they were also indoctrinated at an early age, while at the same time warning about the dangers of "those other people" who brainwashed their kids.

Ditto for a dozen or so of mostly SBC church services and study groups I sat through, and participated in, before I finally got it that the true believers were not interested in asking questions, thinking, or learning - or in anyone who was. All they were interested in, and this was in my experience universal, was repeating the story, and those who repeated the story, and who had the same basic testimony that they did.

( its not that hard, try to keep up...)

Personally, I would define brainwashing as something like telling someone what, or how, to believe an think.

Providing information or encouragement, or even help, is not.

I am not going to listen to Lady Gaga to find out what she is saying, because I don't enjoy listening to her. That doesn't mean she has no talent, or that she is wrong, or right, or anything else. It means I am not going to listen to her because I don't enjoy listening to her.
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Brainwashing is a lot more simpler, and try to grasp this concept...it isn't always a bad thing. Schools brainwash in one way or another, parents brainwash, friends brainwash, etc.

Anything you follow or believe, pretty much has brainwashed you. Not hard to do and not complicated to understand. Some people confuse brainwashing with being hypnotized. It's when you think for yourself based on your personal experiences and knowledge you have acquired in life that you can say you're not brainwashed.

I went to Catholic school, found their hypocrisy and said, 'bye-bye!' I pledge allegiance to nobody and have no actual loyalty to anybody. I don't always agree with Democrats or Republicans, and in my business it is best to be neutral on all grounds. You should try it sometimes!

As long as one is a sheep, you are brainwashed. As for Lady GaGa, maybe she should keep politics out of her acts, seeing that her fans who pay to see her concerts, shouldn't care about Obamacare.
 
Ifly2 said:
"I could not have given them the quality of education or the depth of experience they got at the local public schools.

No way, No how"

I was talking about my situation, no one else's.

You are largely right about city schools in poorer districts. You forgot that the same goes for rural schools in poorer districts.

And, yup, that is a big part of why I chose to live the last quarter century somewhere that I personally didn't really like, because the opportunities for them were more important than the condo in the city and cabin in the mountains that I wanted.

It didn't take a lot of $$$. My kids went to school with kids of all backgrounds, with the curve heavily weighted to pretty squarely middle middle class, a lot of who's parents graduated from the same school system, and never went to college. I could have kept the home we had and raised them driving a bus, or working at nearly anything. Some of the extras wouldn't have happened, but they'd have had a good education, and a safe environment.

I suspect there are a few Republicans living in the cities. So that attempt at a slam doesn't really fly, far.
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If there are rural schools in poorer districts, the major city is in worse shape. I don't understand your ramblings, so are you saying you chose to live in a poorer unsafe city as oppose to a secure home in the burbs? Please explain what you are talking about, and why you select sections of quotes???
 
Ifly2 said:
Anything these folks don't like, anything remotely connected to Obama, anything that offends their delicate sensibilities, anything that Rush or Mommy Roth says should worry them, anything they are afraid of, justified or not, etc.

It is all a conspiracy

All of it

Including Lady Gaga
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Again what is your rambling talking about? You brought up BRAINWASHING and I used Lady-keep your opinion to yourself-CaCA as an example. Suddenly I'm listening to a bunch of idiots on the radio and following them, and blah, blah, blah. Nice twist, Tree and all your accomplishments are still undocumented, much like yourself :p
 
Ifly2 said:
You claim that lady gaga is brainwashing people by sharing info about the exchanges. Or maybe she is even encouraging them to sign up, and maybe even stating her opinion that the ACA is a good thing.

That is not brainwashing, you just want to demonize it.

You don't like ACA, or Obama, or her, and you don't want the message out, so..... Voila.... Must be something sinister going on.... Aha. Brainwashing...

BS

It's a public service announcement., or an entertainer expressing an opinion.

No different than Rush, bill, Sean, or Rachel, or any of the rest of the hordes of raving heads and fear dealers doing the same.

Get over yourself, and, maybe, turn off the talk radio and fox/msnbc/anything like them.

Methinks thou dost protest too much, and probably spend a bit too much time with the FauxNewsErtainment crowd.

Imthink they done pulled an Alinsky in referse on ya'

You too Dude...

Sorry
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Keep clucking, chicken. Have you noticed how you just twisted a small observation, into making me a villain? Bwhahahaha! Your a fool, Tree!
 
Oddly enough, this is pretty much what I was saying...

I don't think Lady GaGa is part of any organized attempt at brainwashing tho. Just another entertainer. The argument about entertainers sharing, or promoting their politics is old as entertainers. It don't bother me... I either listen or I don't... Just like all those entertainers on the " news" channels and radio.


"Brainwashing is a lot more simpler, and try to grasp this concept...it isn't always a bad thing. Schools brainwash in one way or another, parents brainwash, friends brainwash, etc.

Anything you follow or believe, pretty much has brainwashed you. Not hard to do and not complicated to understand. Some people confuse brainwashing with being hypnotized. It's when you think for yourself based on your personal experiences and knowledge you have acquired in life that you can say you're not brainwashed.

I went to Catholic school, found their hypocrisy and said, 'bye-bye!' I pledge allegiance to nobody and have no actual loyalty to anybody. I don't always agree with Democrats or Republicans, and in my business it is best to be neutral on all grounds. You should try it sometimes!"
 
Maybe I assumed too much, re the other post, but your seeing a conspiracy in Lady G sort of led that direction
 
American adults scored below the international average on a global test in math, reading and problem-solving using technology — all skills considered critical for global competitiveness and economic strength.

Adults in Japan, Canada, Australia, Finland and multiple other countries scored significantly higher than the United States in all three areas on the test, according to results released Tuesday by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, which is made up of mostly industrialized member countries. Beyond basic reading and math, respondents were tested on activities such as calculating mileage reimbursement due to a salesman, sorting email and comparing food expiration dates on grocery store tags.

Not only did Americans score poorly compared to many international competitors, the findings highlighted the gap between American high- and low-skilled workers, and how hard it is to move ahead when your parents have not.

In both reading and math, for example, those with college-educated parents did better than those whose parents did not complete high school.

The U.S. tested below average on literacy. Coupled with the nation's "large social disparities, the test's findings reveal that for Americans, social background has a major impact on literary skills," the study said.

The study, called the Program for the International Assessment of Adult Competencies, also found that it was easier on average to overcome this and other barriers to literacy overseas than in the United States.

Researchers tested about 157,000 people ages 16 to 65 in more than 20 countries and subnational regions. The Education Department's Center for Education Statistics participated.

The findings were equally grim for many European countries. Italy and Spain, among the hardest hit by the recession and debt crisis, ranked at the bottom across generations. Unemployment is well above 25 percent in Spain and above 12 percent in Italy. Spain has drastically cut education spending, drawing student street protests.

But in the northern European countries that have fared better, the picture was brighter, and the study credits continuing education. In Finland, Denmark, and the Netherlands, more than 60 percent of adults took part is either job training or continuing education. In Italy, by contrast, the rate was half that.

As the U.S. economy sputters along, economists say a highly-skilled workforce is key to economic recovery. The median hourly wage of workers scoring on the highest level in literacy on the test is more than 60 percent higher than for workers scoring at the lowest level, and those with low literacy skills were more than twice as likely to be unemployed.

"It's not just the kids who require more and more preparation to get access to the economy, it's more and more the adults don't have the skills to stay in it," said Anthony Carnevale, director of the Georgetown University Center on Education and the Workforce.

Education Secretary Arne Duncan said in a statement that the nation needs to find ways to reach more adults to upgrade their skills. Otherwise, "no matter how hard they work, these adults will be stuck, unable to support their families and contribute fully to our country," he said.

Al Jazeera and The Associated Press
 
Sorry but in BaRacks fundamentaly transform America theres no reason or reward to excel or succeed because those that shrug excelling still get a trophy and free sh! T !
 
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Common Core School:

Wonder if the play met state federal standards?

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Only standards deemed essential for college and career readiness have been included in the Common Core State Standards.

Let’s say your house is humming along in first weeks of a brand-new high school year, and one day you find out your kid’s in an acting class that’s putting on a play with some questionable content.
Like man-in-love-with-a-goat questionable. Like bestiality questionable.
Incest, too. And perhaps unsurprisingly, other sexually explicit content and a fair dose of swear words.
All acted out and starring teenagers.
That’s the news many parents received when it came to light that drama teacher Andrew Cupo of Cactus Shadows High School in Scottsdale, Ariz., introduced students in an advanced acting class to an absurdist play called “The Goat, or Who Is Sylvia?” by Edward Albee.
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southwind said:
Sorry but in BaRacks fundamentaly transform America theres no reason or reward to excel or succeed because those that shrug excelling still get a trophy and free sh! T !
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None of that happened prior to 2008? Still throwing stuff at the wall to see if it will stick?
 
Dog Wonder said:
He has tried English and failed miserably. The only one in his class that didn't get a trophy.
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He was one of the kids who did not do will in English or critical thinking and they passed him anyway because they did not want to fail him. Ironic in light of his previous statement don't you think?
 
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