Combined Travel Rules

[700UW]

AA has premium contracts on their JFK-LAX flights, they have operated 767-200s on that route forever.
 
UA has been doing it also with their 757s on the JFK-LAX and JFK-SFO.
 
The A321T will be a success for them on the route, have you seen the pictures of the cabin?

 

[ilmbeaches]

 
I have no doubt at all that AA has been consistently more focused than US on providing a pleasant travel experience for its customers.  That's why it placed systems which support that policy.  US does not operate that way.  The cheapest way to do things is the way it will get done.  (Wait and see just how long those 75-seat A321s last in that configuration.)
 
And, if you have been at all disappointed in the way AA has treated employees, tighten your seat belt and put on your shoulder harness.

I'm not all disappointed in AA. If it ended tomorrow it was a great run for almost 47 years of my travel experiences.  Maybe its my AAttitude

 

[traderjake]

 
I have no doubt at all that AA has been consistently more focused than US on providing a pleasant travel experience for its customers.  That's why it placed systems which support that policy.  US does not operate that way.  The cheapest way to do things is the way it will get done.  (Wait and see just how long those 75-seat A321s last in that configuration.)
 
And, if you have been at all disappointed in the way AA has treated employees, tighten your seat belt and put on your shoulder harness.

 
Hopefully Parker realizes we can't compete against Delta doing things the cheapest way.

 

[dash8roa]

Hopefully Parker realizes we can't compete against Delta doing things the cheapest way.

Remember, were are talking about an airline (US) that for a while charged for water and still charges customers to redeem frequent flyer miles with the customer doing all the work on the web site, no res agent involved. Now that's cheap.

 

[nycbusdriver]

Remember, were are talking about an airline (US) that for a while charged for water and still charges customers to redeem frequent flyer miles with the customer doing all the work on the web site, no res agent involved. Now that's cheap.

 
While they charged for soft drinks, there was never a charge for water.  I actually think there are regulations against that.

 

[737823]

Remember, were are talking about an airline (US) that for a while charged for water and still charges customers to redeem frequent flyer miles with the customer doing all the work on the web site, no res agent involved. Now that's cheap.

+1000

And the airline that doesn't have real glassware on many FC flights, club lounges in a state of disrepair, no champagne in international business class, the list goes on and on. US is incredibly stingy and uncustomer focused, consistent with their mantra of "getting passengers to their destination on time and with their baggage".

Josh

 

[FWAAA]

 
While they charged for soft drinks, there was never a charge for water.  I actually think there are regulations against that.

Sorry, Captain, but Drunken Parker did in fact charge for bottled water:
 

But US Airways drew considerable attention and criticism after it began charging $1 for coffee and tea and $2 for bottled water and soft drinks.

 
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/23/business/23air.html?_r=2&emc=tnt&tntemail1=y&
http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/2009/02/us-airways-cans-the-soft-drink.html/
http://crankyflier.com/2009/02/24/why-did-us-airways-end-charges-for-soda-and-water-to-enhance-its-rep/
 
To be fair,  US was not very far away from a Ch 11 filing when it did this, due to its multi-hundred million dollar loss on the fuel hedges when fuel prices collapsed in late 2008 and due to Kirby the Moron's decision to permit the CFO to gamble several hundred million dollars of the available cash on the auction rate note debacle (which cost US several hundred million dollars in losses).    
 
Sure, the potable water in the planes' tanks was probably still free, but there are a lot of germaphobes who wouldn't dream of drinking that.   Of course it's used for onboard coffee, but the coffee is heated to at least 170 or 180, probably enough to kill some of the more deadly germs residing in those tanks.  

 

[Black Magic]

I find it disturbing that an active employees dependants still fly at a d2 priority even when the employee is not accompanying them on the flight?  Has this always been the policy at AA?
 
Figure some employee has 5 kids who sit around all day with no job and just want to travel the world in the summer can check in on their smartphone being 1st on the standby list while im in the aircraft bin loading a flight.  Not fair imo.

 

[AdAstraPerAspera]

I find it disturbing that an active employees dependants still fly at a d2 priority even when the employee is not accompanying them on the flight?  Has this always been the policy at AA?
 
Figure some employee has 5 kids who sit around all day with no job and just want to travel the world in the summer can check in on their smartphone being 1st on the standby list while im in the aircraft bin loading a flight.  Not fair imo.

 
Then just make sure you check in on your  smartphone before they do. Problem solved.

 

[eolesen]

That's really reaching... How many airline employees have 5 kids old enough to travel unaccompanied? And how many airline employees can afford to have their kids "traveling the world" during the summer?...

D2 has always included the employee's household.

By your reasoning, I suppose unaccompanied spouses and registered partners should get a lower priority as well?

I'm sure all that would go over like a fart in the cockpit.

The AA policy seems to have worked well for its employees longer than US or HP have existed as airlines.

 

[Black Magic]

 
Then just make sure you check in on your  smartphone before they do. Problem solved.

 
Not that easy since PED (personal electronic devices) including smartphones are not allowed on the ramp.

 

[Black Magic]

That's really reaching... How many airline employees have 5 kids old enough to travel unaccompanied? And how many airline employees can afford to have their kids "traveling the world" during the summer?...

D2 has always included the employee's household.

By your reasoning, I suppose unaccompanied spouses and registered partners should get a lower priority as well?

I'm sure all that would go over like a fart in the cockpit.

The AA policy seems to have worked well for its employees longer than US or HP have existed as airlines.

 
I don't see the spouses or kids putting in their years for a company to travel ahead of an everyday working active employee.  Now if they are with the employee of course they should travel at D2, but if they are without their priority should be adjusted to the retiree level.
 
Also US Airways is no spring chicken either being founded in 1937 a mere 7 years after AA in 1930.

 

[IORFA]

Not that easy since PED (personal electronic devices) including smartphones are not allowed on the ramp.

But you're Black Magic. You shouldn't have any problems. Just use a little of your namesake.

 

[Rogallo]

 
Not that easy since PED (personal electronic devices) including smartphones are not allowed on the ramp.

 
I watch rampers all day with their PED tucked under their HPH (hearing protection headset)!

 

[eolesen]

I don't see the spouses or kids putting in their years for a company to travel ahead of an everyday working active employee.

What an ass.

The employee may be the name on the paycheck, but the spouse is the one left to deal with the kids, particularly flight crews and those who have to commute to another city due to downsizing.

Their kids pay a price because airline work schedules aren't exactly conducive to being able to coach teams, be at all their games, help with Scouting, etc.


I know for a fact that my wife and kids had to live without all the stuff their friends with 9-5 parents were able to have & do, all because we were living on an airline salary and working under an airline's schedule.

You're obviously not married with kids. If you are, I pity your spouse & kids, because apparently you can't see past your own hands to realize how invested your family is in your job.