CO to join Star

[YVINTERN]

I think a house fell on Bobbie's sister! Mama

*laughs* How terribly Evil Mama,

I personally think Bobbie (Don't shoot me here on USAV or sling a coke at me on a flight if I ever fly under you)...is one of these Christian H Y P O C R I T Es...They say something and do the other...

Now YVINTERN will continue with his idiotic blithering...Take Care Y'All.

 

[EyeInTheSky]

I think a house fell on Bobbie's sister! Mama

LOL....and her little dog too!

Later,
Eye

 

[Bobbie]

You are a total fraud and everybody knows it. The only other explination is that you are wealthy due to winning the lottery. Why are you so happy to see other people suffer just for your revenge? Yeah very christ like.

Justice and vengeance are two different things. Justice is not only endorsed by God but is celebrated. I could bore you by quoting scripture, but I doubt it will change your opinion. You have a blessed day.

 

[flybynite]

Twilight Zone

 

[Travelpro72]

I thought I was on usaviation.com. Is this the 700 Club? :blink:

 

[InternationalShannon]

Try sinking well into 7 figures of your business' money into an airline over the years that treats customers like US treats theirs and talk to me about disgruntled. I'm downright livid at what's gone on and I apologize if the reality of the situation disturbs you. Your customers feel the pain just as bad as you do. Do you not think I read what you guys are saying? I know it's absolutely scandalous what they've done to you and the airlines you worked so hard to build. What started out as a team effort for the mutual benefit of everyone has turned into a party for the people at the top on the backs of the customers and the employees. It's no longer a "team" mentality at this airline. Everything I've seen and encountered indicates it's Us vs. Them and that's no way to build employee morale.

What makes it particularly disheartening were the years I enjoyed very good if not excellent service on both America West and US Airways, probably from some of you. For that, I thank you.

The only salvation of this airline will be a renewed commitment to customer satisfaction and is with that in mind that I choose to be vocal as to the gravity of the situation.

No, you choose to gloat. If you have such a hardon for CO, why don't you go post your drivel on their board.

 

[EyeInTheSky]

http://www.worstpreviews.com/images/cast/fisher_stevens.gif[/img] Hmmm....

Later,
Eye

MOD NOTE: Using Another person's likeness without permission is not permitted.

 

[mrman]

What this board is not getting is that rather than confront the issue at hand, they are going after Bobbie and Piney.

Give me a reason that any *A Customer would fly US as a codeshare either to fill domestic or International. With CO addition *A customers can now fly to the Northeast without US. In addition, *A customers gain Mexico, Carribean. and the South Pacific. Why would *A customer choose US's product, or US hubs. Why deal with the PHL factor?

LH will lose the through passengers that once went to PHL and will connect more in EWR. Charlotte and PHX will now connect in IAH leaving PHL and CLT out in the cold. So now internation passengers to the US won't connect with US and domestic passengers flying to Europe won't connect with US. I would not be suprised to see LH leaving the CLT and PHX market and increasing IAH.

US is going to be forced only selling on price without the business Customers because the product is so bad no *A business Customer is going to fly with them This will further drive down yield. In addition with more open seats, US will be carrying more award travelers from the other *A carriers as US seats will be empty vs UA and CO getting a bump in traffic.

This is not good news for US.

Again ask yourself "If I was a *A traveler, why would I book on US?

The only reason I see is if you are PHL or CLT based. But then LH gives you access to Europe.

Again this is not good news for US, and should be the topic of this thread. But rather than confront or discuss issues many are worried about how Piney or Bobby is stating the issues, not what they are saying. The issue is this is very bad news for US

 

[Fly]

from USA TODAY
June 20, 2008

What they're saying about the United-Continental alliance ...


A day after Continental announced its intention to partner with United and defect from the SkyTeam frequent-flier group to the Star Alliance, the story remains a hot topic in the airline industry. Here's what the newspapers in each of the airlines hometown have to say about the news:

The Chicago Tribune (free registration) says "the alliance is an important victory for United Chief Executive Glenn Tilton, whose reputation as a dealmaker appeared tarnished after merger discussions with three carriers, one of them Continental, didn't result in a deal. It also signals that the Chicago-based carrier is positioned to be a survivor in the shakeout that lies ahead for U.S. carriers if oil prices remain at current levels, analysts said." The paper adds the deal "will bring most of the benefits of a merger, analysts said, without the mess and high costs of merging disparate workforces."

Robert Mann, president of aviation consulting firm R.W. Mann & Co., tells the Tribune: "Importantly, this gets (the airlines) an even more attractive end-to-end global network." The paper also notes that if Continental and United are successful in a bid for antitrust immunity, they could begin to work more closely with fellow Star Alliance partners Lufthansa and Air Canada on trans-Atlantic routes. The Tribune says: "If they receive the blessings from U.S. and European regulators, the four carriers could closely collaborate on scheduling, marketing and even the type of aircraft used on a given route. Such arrangements typically involving sharing expenses among partners and divvying up the profits that accrue from linking carriers as well as new markets."

Still, the Tribune says the United-Continental alliance could take some time to consummate, writing that it 'isn't likely to take effect for at least a year. Continental must wait for Delta and Northwest to complete their merger, triggering a provision that will free Continental from its SkyTeam contract. Continental must also give nine months notice before it exits."

The Houston Chronicle adds: "Nothing changes for the time being … . It could take at least a year for Houston-based Continental to get regulatory approvals and extricate itself from existing alliances with Sky-Team and Delta and Northwest airlines, which are prospective merger partners." Carl Tobias, a professor at the University of Richmond School of Law, tells the Chronicle: "I don't think it is going to be terribly difficult compared to a merger. It seems conceivable they may be able to get some agreement in principle out of the antitrust folks before the Bush administration leaves office."

And, one sign of good news for the airlines' management teams, the Chronicle notes "Continental's pilots union was cautiously optimistic. Capt. Jay Pierce, head of the local, said the deal could allow the company to receive the benefit of a merger without the hassle." Pierce tells the Chronicle: "To that extent, we are pleased."

As for US Airways' continued role in Star Alliance, the Chronicle suggests that could become unclear. "US Airways, which has its own code-share ticketing arrangement with United, was not mentioned in Thursday's news release other than being listed as a Star Alliance member," the Chronicle notes. Consultant Mann tells the paper: "There will be a question as Continental and United try to get a full network code-share domestically whether the DOT will still permit the existing US Airways and United code-share to stay in place."

For more perspective from United's hometown, check out the full version of the Chicago Tribune (free registration) story. And for the view from Continental's hometown of Houston, check out the full Houston Chronicle story.

USA Today

 

[Bobbie]

from USA TODAY
June 20, 2008

What they're saying about the United-Continental alliance ...

Someone give this man a cigar.

 

[AIRBORN1]

Someone give this man a cigar.

Bobbie--- You are cute.... I like your funny christian energy.... You should be on tv.. You make my dogs bark....

 

[UPNAWAY]

What this board is not getting is that rather than confront the issue at hand, they are going after Bobbie and Piney.

Give me a reason that any *A Customer would fly US as a codeshare either to fill domestic or International. With CO addition *A customers can now fly to the Northeast without US. In addition, *A customers gain Mexico, Carribean. and the South Pacific. Why would *A customer choose US's product, or US hubs. Why deal with the PHL factor?



I would like to see some evidence that US is loosing any market share, the numbers just do not support that!

 

[US1YFARE]

the numbers just do not support that!

Maybe, maybe not...but, they do show that US sucks.

 

[Old Guy]

Could this be another way to cut seats ? You pull down in stations where you don't have a 80% load factor,and your Starr partner picks up your slack.

Bobbie, you may think you feel our pain. The best way to describe it ,would be gutted. From the pelvic bone to the rib cage. I haven't been treated this way since the 70's . That would have been when I was in the service. And it wasn't by the the other service people. The "new management " is like talking to a brick wall. They have their committies. Management. Not one ear to the people who actually do the work. As you and Focus have found out, you the customer, get the same treatment. They were to be the experts. Handed the reins at the merger/ buy out (PBGC doesn't call it a buy out). So here we are .Trying our best to do the best. So please direct your you heat toward management. Just like we in the service tried to do in the 60's to the 70's. Trying our best to do the best.

Old Guy

 

[Travelpro72]

For those of you that believe that CO's admission to the Star Alliance isn't a threat to US really need to think about that. I know some view US as a "powerhouse" of sorts up and down the east coast but can't CO get you to MANY of the same destinations from EWR as US can from PHL? I'm sure US has many other tiny cities out of CLT than say CO from IAH but c'mon. I don't care how Tempe tries to spin it you KNOOOOOOW they are a poopin the panties over this. You don't think that UA will dive in bed with CO to the degree allowed and leave US to whither on the vine? MMMM HMMMMMM.