CO looking at Q400s

[robbedagain]

lets just say abe to bos was a dash 8400 are you saying that we wouldnt be able to handle it due to security supporting program yet we have a mainline jet doing a run with 120 seats, i am not sure i understand the logic behind the scene?

 

[whlinder]

Stage lengths out East aren't long enough for the Q400, and where they are the loads are high enough for a CRJ7/9 or E190/737.

The Q400 has as many seats as the CRJ7, so I don't see how potential loads would have any effect on which plane is best for a particular route. And short hauls are where this plane fares best, since its only negative is cruise speed, which is obviously less of a problem on short flights.

(I wonder how many seats Bombardier is using on their Q400 for that calculation though, 78 with 30in pitch or 70 with 33in pitch)

 

[FM2436]

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lets just say abe to bos was a dash 8400 are you saying that we wouldnt be able to handle it due to security supporting program yet we have a mainline jet doing a run with 120 seats, i am not sure i understand the logic behind the scene?

If ABE has only a supporting security program, then ABE can not have scheduled air carrier aircraft seating more than 60 passengers operating from ABE. If ABE has a compete security program, then an size air carrier aircraft can operate from ABE.

Click the link below and scroll down to 1542.103-Content and read the differences between the complete and supporting security program. Also, carefully read paragraphs 1542.103a and 1542.103b.

http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-....1.3.7.9.2.10.3

Then cross reference the link below for airline security by scrolling down to 1544.101-Adoption and implementation and carefully read 1544.101(a)(1) and (2). 1542.103a and 1542.103b make reference to 1544.101(a)(1)(2).

http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-...1.3.7.10.2.10.1

 

[PropPiedmont]

The Q400 has as many seats as the CRJ7, so I don't see how potential loads would have any effect on which plane is best for a particular route. And short hauls are where this plane fares best, since its only negative is cruise speed, which is obviously less of a problem on short flights.

The reason I compare it to the CRJ7 is to show that we already have that aircraft. Why would US Airways replace a 70 seat RJ???

As for cruise speed and short hauls look at this from the Alaska Airlines website:

PDX-SMF 478 miles

Horizon FLT 2359 Q400 1 hr 35 min

Horizon FLT 2527 CRJ7 1 hr 20 min

Alaska FLT 368 B734 1 hr 27 min

Ride on a 737-400 and save 8 minutes over a 500 mile flight. So is the Q400 slow and used on short routes? No.

 

[chichi]

The reason I compare it to the CRJ7 is to show that we already have that aircraft. Why would US Airways replace a 70 seat RJ???

As for cruise speed and short hauls look at this from the Alaska Airlines website:

PDX-SMF 478 miles

Horizon FLT 2359 Q400 1 hr 35 min

Horizon FLT 2527 CRJ7 1 hr 20 min

Alaska FLT 368 B734 1 hr 27 min

Ride on a 737-400 and save 8 minutes over a 500 mile flight. So is the Q400 slow and used on short routes? No.

Ummm....fuel cost, comfort, profit. Want anymore?

Ummm....fuel cost, comfort, profit. Want anymore?

Never mind, its late...sorry. Q400 is a great airpane...hope PDT gets em!!!!

 

[whlinder]

The reason I compare it to the CRJ7 is to show that we already have that aircraft. Why would US Airways replace a 70 seat RJ???

Because the Q400 is more efficient. In my mind US Airways should be looking to use the Q400 to replace 50 & 70 seat RJs on short routes, and the redeploying the 70 seaters on longer routes. Use the replaced 70 seaters to replace 50 seaters flying longer routes and to open new routes that are long and thin.

As for cruise speed and short hauls look at this from the Alaska Airlines website:

PDX-SMF 478 miles

Horizon FLT 2359 Q400 1 hr 35 min

Horizon FLT 2527 CRJ7 1 hr 20 min

Alaska FLT 368 B734 1 hr 27 min

Ride on a 737-400 and save 8 minutes over a 500 mile flight. So is the Q400 slow and used on short routes? No.

So it is even faster than I thought. That makes it more competitive and efficient.