BuffaloJoe
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Back in 1994 US flew PIT-SJC.
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i was thinking the same thing
To Blacktail and PBI2FLL, why are you two so suprised about TUS-CLT? there's a hugh market now from TUS because for years the air service outta there was poor, everyone was used to driving up to PHX for more choice in air travel. But now every airline has boosted service from TUS, have any of you guys every been there?? People with quite a bit of money live there.
YVINTERN
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Yeah but I think it's silly to offer TUS-CLT when it's next to PHX that has more frequency to CLT...
It's like US is gonna do transcons to LAX/LGB/BUR/SNA/ONT when a simple transcon to LAX would do wonders for the ASMs and Capacity...However if US is making revenue and could use the Mesa CRJ9s somewhere else...so be it...
jimcfs
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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that to connect to the Int'l operation AA had there? That was about the time US and AA had some agreements in place.
FutureUScapt
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Thats not really the best analogy, as SNA, especially, can attract higher yield fares better than LAX can. Notice that both SMF and TUS are relatively poorly connected to the East coast in general, so US can probably get some decent yields on those routes.
On another note, US might want to rethink the times listed for PDX-CLT -- 5:55 eastbound and only 5:50 westbound (PDX-PHL is listed at 4:42), I don't think so. <_<
It's a Tucson thing. You don't understand us Tusconians knee-jerk disdain of all things Phoenix and Phoenix-related. It's the main reason that America West always had a poor public image here: "Ya gotta go through (shudder) Phoenix to get anywhere."
That said, with all the local clamor for more "direct" (which, in the general public's limited knowledge of airline jargon, means 'nonstop') service to the east, that same public doesn't always put their money where their mouth is: jetBlue is making noises in the local business media that they are unhappy with their load factors out of here so far. Which could mainly be due to the fact that their sole flight is a red-eye departing at 2230. The CO EWR and UA IAD flights seem to be doing OK. I think Herb could make a TUS-BWI work as well.
I think US has a chance for success with TUS-CLT. What's the start date? They've missed February, which is a huge month here for visitor activities.
BuffaloJoe
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SJC had that NRT route then and CDG and not sure Hong Kong or Taipai but those were short lived and that was in 2001. US had two flights from PIT to SJC, but that route ended in the fall of 1994. Plus US was utilizing Terminal C their second time back. After the PSA acquisition they had Terminal A's WN gates. But they abandoned SJC in 1992, and the routes then were intra-california. They went back in 1994 and it lasted about 6-7 months. AA had a decent op but their only Int'l flights at that time were NRT and YVR.
Dog Wonder
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Check out the Desert Zoo in TUS. The Hummingbird place is great.
And you can drive to Nogales for the international trade.
And you can drive to Nogales for the international trade.
I assume you refer to the Arizona-Sonora Desert Museum. It is indeed a world-class facility.
On an aviation-related note, the Pima Air and Space Museum is also among the best of its genre.
It's Titan Missile Museum adjunct facility is one of a kind.
That is good news for once. I always wondered why HP never implemented more point to point service in and out of TUS. Hopefully CLT-ABQ, CLT-OMA, PHL-SJC/SNA are next!! I still don't know why there are not any transcons added out of BOS hub? I guess the competition is too tight? COS-CLT could also maybe be on the horizon?? Take some congestion out of DEN. 
By the way Travelpro, we still fly the 757 in and out of SNA to PHX. And it is still a blast taking off!
By the way Travelpro, we still fly the 757 in and out of SNA to PHX. And it is still a blast taking off!
First off I have been to TUS. It is a nice city, with great people. Let me tell you what though, SNA no doubt in my mind could bring in better yields to the company. It has some of the richest cities within 10 miles of the airport including but not limited to Newport Beach, Laguna Beach and Irvine. The Orange County area compromises of over a few million people versus TUS several hundred thousand people. This was not meant to be a TUS bashing thread..... It was aimed at asking why the sandcastle can't figure out that SNA can make them money????
COs EWR flights are very high yielding and they have a monopoly on east coast flights. If God forbid Tempe thought outside the box for two seconds and even sent a weight restricted airplane in here, I gauruntee it would make $$$. You would be sick of the number of double conex we see each day, SNA-PHX/LAS-CLT/PHL-XXX. I would be so bold as to say probably 40%! Our pax don't want to change planes twice and they would be willing to pay extra not to.
I agree with you on all points. The problem with SNA, is the congestion. We have lots of flights to and from the LAS and PHX bases, with only two gates. Most a/c are parked in remote areas during the nightime. IF they did add a PHL or CLT flight, they would have to decrease some PHX and/or LAS flights. It is very possible they might add some East coast transcon eventually, but the traffic is heavy in SNA and there is a curfew too. The red-eye wouldn't be possible out of the airport, and the company seems to be big on nite flights to and from PHL/CLT out of West Coast markets. IT is a really nice airport to fly into for the most part, and on crew layovers, we walk across the street to the hotel, which is very convienent.
TUS as of last late 2006 is now over 1 million people.
