Christmas Whiteout ?

[CactUS Mech]

Use your head before you do something stupid. In this economy jobs are scarse dont lose your job just to be off 1 day. US Airways will Fire you first and asks questions 6 months later at your hearing with your union rep. thats right folks hearings take 6 months with appeals.

 

[NAPAUS]

Anyone ever wonder how quiet this board would be if there were no rumor threads or fighting amougst each other about our unions?

<_< <_< Yes actually your "spot-on". However, it seems that the US board is littered with lots of bickering, petty, angry, small town airline whiners. MOst of the reports on here are rumors, fueled by people who probably have VERY little in their lives other than their airline work. I have often been struck by this and see it very clearly now that I am no longer in the midst of the dysfunctional machine called USAirways. VERY interesting psychological and sociological studies could be done of the effects ( fall out ) of many small airlines who came together haphazardly who are currently under the direction of incompetent leadership.

 

[nycbusdriver]

Use your head before you do something stupid. In this economy jobs are scarse dont lose your job just to be off 1 day. US Airways will Fire you first and asks questions 6 months later at your hearing with your union rep. thats right folks hearings take 6 months with appeals.

Well, if you're going to be furloughed in January, what exactly is the downside of taking Christmas off? I fail to see how the threat of "six months out of work" while the union negotiates is any detriment when the reality is you are probably looking at years out of work (at USAirways) anyway.

 

[VAflyGal]

But can one get fired for BEING sick, with a doctor's note, just because it happens to fall from December 6 to Jan 2?...

If you think this isn't gonna happen this year, "Bless yer heart."

 

[VAflyGal]

Use your head before you do something stupid. In this economy jobs are scarse dont lose your job just to be off 1 day. US Airways will Fire you first and asks questions 6 months later at your hearing with your union rep. thats right folks hearings take 6 months with appeals.

I have to take issue with this post. I don't know how things work in mechanic land, but flight attendants, despite being stripped of full pay for sick calls (thank you BK), have the right to call in sick. If I'm not mistaken, we can call in for 5 separate incidents without having to show documentation regarding our medical care.

We are the ones who are in these filthy airplanes with passengers who are more than happy to cough and sneeze all over the place, breathing in the recycled air, cleaning the tissues the pax stuff into the seat back pockets because, (thank you, BK) we assumed the role of utility (after the plane is parked and we aren't getting paid anymore, often during what would have been our lunch break time)...

H1N1 is a NATIONAL epidemic this year. Please spare us the lecture on doing something "stupid." We knew we were going to work nights and weekends and holidays when we signed up for this job, which takes us away from our families enough anyway, but none of us expected to be on reserve 10, 15, 20 years working EVERY HOLIDAY without an end in sight. Betty Bid Sheet and Oscar Over-Fly have no clue what reserves put up with, and quite frankly, the self-serving attitude displayed by so many has reserves seething.

Our contract protects us from getting fired when we are sick. People get sick, especially in the winter. It happens. If the company would be smart about how they schedule and pay us over holidays, it would never be an issue. Remember the sickness that overcame the rampers a few years ago in PHL, when bags were all over the place and animals were freezing to death because everyone was on their deathbeds they were so sick? It was sad and tragic.

4 years into this contract fiasco with base closures and displacements and furloughs with NO buyout gives reserves no hope and every reason to not fly when they are sick this year.

Keep drinkin' that Kool Aid, though, or egg nog if you can hold the holidays off with your family.

 

[BMIBABYgirl737]

No one could have said it better VAFlyGAL! Yes, we know what we are signing up for when we get hired here. We are the ONLY airline with 20 year reserves and no end in sight. Wanting to spend time with family is during the holiday is not STUPID, therefore I will not think twice if I should decide to call sick. Working here with all the vile negativity, and crappy moral is enough to make one mentally ill. There is EAP for that, so go ahead try to tell me not to make a STUPID decision, or tell me I will get fired. I love aviation, and due to the economy most of us are stuck between a rock and a hard place.

 

[4merresrat]

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We are the ones who are in these filthy airplanes with passengers who are more than happy to cough and sneeze all over the place, breathing in the recycled air, cleaning the tissues the pax stuff into the seat back pockets because, (thank you, BK) we assumed the role of utility (after the plane is parked and we aren't getting paid anymore, often during what would have been our lunch break time)...

We knew we were going to work nights and weekends and holidays when we signed up for this job, which takes us away from our families enough anyway, but none of us expected to be on reserve 10, 15, 20 years working EVERY HOLIDAY without an end in sight. Betty Bid Sheet and Oscar Over-Fly have no clue what reserves put up with, and quite frankly, the self-serving attitude displayed by so many has reserves seething.

Quite a post. Such disdain and disgust for passengers for your job the likes of which I haven't seen, oh since the last time I checked the USairways board (lol).
And YES, you did know you would be working holidays when you accepted a job as a flight attendant! Appreciate you have a job.

 

[VAflyGal]

Quite a post. Such disdain and disgust for passengers for your job the likes of which I haven't seen, oh since the last time I checked the USairways board (lol).
And YES, you did know you would be working holidays when you accepted a job as a flight attendant! Appreciate you have a job.

I love people. I love my passengers. I don't love people who don't wash their hands after they use the lav and germ up the cabin by sneezing or coughing without covering their mouths. The rest of your post I'm gonna ignore. I AM glad I have a job. I'm not happy about having lost it once before, or the constant stress of losing it again, among other things. The "White Christmas" movement has nothing to do with passengers, though ultimately, and unfortunately, they are the ones who will be most affected.

And until you walk a mile in our shoes, keep your judgments to yourself, thanks. Other than that, *big cheesey grin* have a grreeeat day. Buh bye now!

 

[Travelpro72]

VAflyGal that post was PERFECT. Couldn't have said it better.

 

[4merresrat]

I love people. I love my passengers. I don't love people who don't wash their hands after they use the lav and germ up the cabin by sneezing or coughing without covering their mouths. The rest of your post I'm gonna ignore. I AM glad I have a job..

And until you walk a mile in our shoes, keep your judgments to yourself, thanks. Other than that, *big cheesey grin* have a grreeeat day. Buh bye now!

Yes, you seem like a lover of people (and passengers). I can tell by your posts. And you seem like a really nice person *Bigger cheesy grin back at ya*. h34r:

 

[Travelpro72]

Ya know, I love when a union pulls an action (not saying there is one here) people turn it into airline employees screwing the customer. Ya know what...thank the management of the airline your flying. When SEPTA employees go on strike it screws the city residents. When nurses go on strike it can screw patients at a hospital. If UPS or FedEx went on strike it would screw your ability to ship time sensitive documents etc. Save it. I understand employees were hired to work weekends and holidays but again when I got hired I didn't hear the last part. Ya know....when they whispered "willing to do so FOREVER". Calling off for the holiday may not be a great "work ethic" but what management makes the employees endure certainly isn't great "management ethic". So again, SAVE IT! ! ! ! What is expected of employees and certainly reserves around here is out of line. I don't blame anyone. Wait, no that's not correct as I blame management.

 

[Real tired]

I have to take issue with this post. I don't know how things work in mechanic land, but flight attendants, despite being stripped of full pay for sick calls (thank you BK), have the right to call in sick. .........................

I'll tell you how things work in Mechanic land.

We do not get fired for calling in sick as the poster suggested. And we too were stripped of the full pay for sick calls like your group. And in typical US fashion, the company has fallen on their own sword in the wording of their sick policy. There just is no incentive not to call in sick. And if you do, it is better financially, to call in sick for a week at a time, rather than call in for one day. At least you get full pay instead of half pay.

But sadly, our group is littered with scared little puppy dogs who roll over on their backs and expose their throats at the first sign of our jack-booted management.

It's no wonder our group gave back more, percentage wise, than other groups, and you'd think that after all that the America West Mechanics have been through, they would have learned better.

 

[VAflyGal]

I'll tell you how things work in Mechanic land.

We do not get fired for calling in sick as the poster suggested. And we too were stripped of the full pay for sick calls like your group. And in typical US fashion, the company has fallen on their own sword in the wording of their sick policy. There just is no incentive not to call in sick. And if you do, it is better financially, to call in sick for a week at a time, rather than call in for one day. At least you get full pay instead of half pay.

But sadly, our group is littered with scared little puppy dogs who roll over on their backs and expose their throats at the first sign of our jack-booted management.

It's no wonder our group gave back more, percentage wise, than other groups, and you'd think that after all that the America West Mechanics have been through, they would have learned better.

I love it. Love it love it love it.

So yeah, watch for it starting around December 5 or so, cause we get 21 days and you can believe the fierce movement in PHL might shake things up this year. Last year they flew us all over the system to cover trips in every other base but our own. I had the privilige of flying with two jaded cynic pilots over Christmas, one of which berated our waiter for being a non-Christian the entire meal. This guy was a real ten percenter. My lead didn't stop griping about everything and everyone the whole trip. Airport to airplane, complain complain. Airport to hotel van, complain, complain. Van ride to hotel, complain, complain. Dinner with the non-Christian, complain, complain. I was ready to jump off a cliff after that trip. Oh, she's gone now. Um hum, she got fired. Finally. She was loathesome.

*passes coffee to my fellow coworkers*

United we stand, divided we beg, no?

 

[Iheartflying]

4merresrat last I checked serfdom was over. Please shut it already. If you've never been a FA you have no idea of the crap we've had to put up with. I'm not even sure why I'm bothering to post a response to you because as far as you're concerned anyone who says anything negative about their work environment is a people hater. I suggest you save it for someone who actually gives a crap about what you have to say. As a work group we are beyond frustrated. If you have nothing of substance to add our dialogue just scroll...

 

[4merresrat]

4merresrat last I checked serfdom was over. Please shut it already. If you've never been a FA you have no idea of the crap we've had to put up with. I'm not even sure why I'm bothering to post a response to you because as far as you're concerned anyone who says anything negative about their work environment is a people hater. I suggest you save it for someone who actually gives a crap about what you have to say. As a work group we are beyond frustrated. If you have nothing of substance to add our dialogue just scroll...

Sorry iheart but last time I checked it's still a free country w/freedom of speech and these boards are not contlrolled by your little group. And furthermore just because you don't like (or agree) with the substance doesn't mean it doesn't need to be said. I suggest that for your own health you might want to heed your own advice and scroll if down of you don't like what's posted. Wah, wah, wah. .