Changes already at HDQ....

eolesen

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A letter sent this morning by Doug to the HDQ folks (forwarded, obviously...)
 
There is no longer reserved parking for executives.

We believe management is a meritocracy. Those who do well, are given more responsibility, and with increased responsibility comes rewards like compensation, office space, etc. But I dont think the best way to award parking spaces in a meritocracy is by level; rather it is by arrival time. More importantly, I want our executives and leaders out in the operation as much as possible, so giving them reserved parking is an inefficient use of the best spaces.

There is no longer a security guard outside of the executive wing

If you can manage to get into this building through those revolving doors of security, then you are certainly welcome to visit the executive wing any time you want. (Were working on those revolving doors also, but thats not a Day One fix.) Please come by and say hello to me and the rest of the team we look forward to meeting all of you.

Both changes are effectively immediately. As youve probably already noticed, the signs have been removed. The security guards have been redeployed elsewhere in the building and well get that desk out of there before too long.
The security guard to 6S was added sometime after 2006... We always had free access to go in, and used O'Hare/Garton/Richardi's conference rooms on a somewhat regular basis.

Now, if they could just get rid of the security guards at the entrances, it would be a total rollback to the pre-9/11 days. Heck, I remember when you didn't even need a card key during business hours....

I know, these are small changes compared to what's happened, but you gotta start somewhere, and tearing down little barriers between the execs and everyone else are an easy start.
 
eolesen said:
A letter sent this morning by Doug to the HDQ folks (forwarded, obviously...) The security guard to 6S was added sometime after 2006... We always had free access to go in, and used O'Hare/Garton/Richardi's conference rooms on a somewhat regular basis.Now, if they could just get rid of the security guards at the entrances, it would be a total rollback to the pre-9/11 days. Heck, I remember when you didn't even need a card key during business hours....I know, these are small changes compared to what's happened, but you gotta start somewhere, and tearing down little barriers between the execs and everyone else are an easy start.
Wasn't the tight security at HDQ brought in when the first PUP payouts went out?
 
Yeah and here in Tulsa they have notified retirees that they are no longer welcome on the base even to go to the credit union. No change in Tulsa except for the worse.
 
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Overspeed said:
Wasn't the tight security at HDQ brought in when the first PUP payouts went out?
Not that I recall. I was here for that, and could still walk into Ralph's office to tell him what I thought about it.
 
OldGuy@AA said:
Yeah and here in Tulsa they have notified retirees that they are no longer welcome on the base even to go to the credit union. No change in Tulsa except for the worse.
They voted for it.
 
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They voted to keep retirees off the premises? (Pass office/travel office/credit union)
No not really, I was making a comment similar to the one we always hear.
THEY CAN DO THAT BROTHER or YOUR OUT OF ORDER.
Now we can add YOU VOTED FOR IT. Sad but true.
 
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Thanks for staying on topic, guys...

If there are full service off-airport branches in both Owasso and Broken Arrow, why should anyone but active employees need access to the branch on the base?...

This isn't just a TUL thing. After 9/11, most non-active members lost access to facilities on the secure side of airport terminals. ORD now has two off-airport branches as a result.
 
How about letting the retirees on base due to RESPECT.  Most have given more than half their lives to American Airlines.  The least the company can do is allow them to use the base credit union for crying out loud.  What if they don't live in Owasso or Broken Arrow?  Whorton gets $17 for eighteen months plus free A passes for himself and family.  Retirees get banned from the base after a lifetime of service.  I guess that would seem fair to all the elitists out there.
 
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Yep, I'm an elitist all right... one of the evil 1%'ers. And I'll sleep perfectly fine knowing it.

Then again, a true non-elitist wouldn't stop at retirees. Heck, any former employee who still belongs to the credit union should have access, no?

And so should their spouses, right?...

Retirees don't get to just walk into HDQ, they can't just walk into the Flight Academy or SOC, and they can't just go thru security at the airport.

So why, pray tell, are the retirees at TUL so damn special? Do you think they're the only ones who spend 20, 30, 40 years of their life working at the airline?...

Of all the injustices out there to piss and moan about, why you chose to single this one out seems a bit odd.
 
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How about letting the retirees on base due to RESPECT.  Most have given more than half their lives to American Airlines.  The least the company can do is allow them to use the base credit union for crying out loud.  What if they don't live in Owasso or Broken Arrow?  Whorton gets $17 for eighteen months plus free A passes for himself and family.  Retirees get banned from the base after a lifetime of service.  I guess that would seem fair to all the elitists out there.
Not that I agree with it
 
but I know at Delta its done the same way. Only way a retiree can get on base is if he has an escort from an active employee.
 
We were told it was due to 9/11......but it has been this way for as long as i can remember. 
 
Now having said that, as far as I know Delta retirees are welcome to come into the HQ without an escort.
 
I have no idea how it works for people in Dallas, Salt Lake City and Cinny where you need a SIDA badge to get to the credit unions. 
 
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Yep, I'm an elitist all right... one of the evil 1%'ers. And I'll sleep perfectly fine knowing it.

Then again, a true non-elitist wouldn't stop at retirees. Heck, any former employee who still belongs to the credit union should have access, no?

And so should their spouses, right?...

Retirees don't get to just walk into HDQ, they can't just walk into the Flight Academy or SOC, and they can't just go thru security at the airport.

So why, pray tell, are the retirees at TUL so damn special? Do you think they're the only ones who spend 20, 30, 40 years of their life working at the airline?...

Of all the injustices out there to piss and moan about, why you chose to single this one out seems a bit odd.
Is the AA HQ inside the airport fence? If it isn't then I don't understand why they can't come to the HQ. They aren't good enough now?
 
Let me flip this, how unwelcome is say Horton? or Crandall? I have a feeling they can go anywhere they want...... 
 

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