Bye bye Tulsa
- Thread starter brownmech
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TWU informer
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Reduction in Tulsa in inevitable. Anyone with half a brain can see why, how, and when. It is called old aircraft being retired and new aircraft being introduced. It happened at NWA and it was AMFA's fault. I cannot wait to see the explanation the TWU gives at AA.
Thomas Paine
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Here's a sneak preview, 'Its AMFAs fault".
BigMac
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Yaaawn... old news.
Wake me when the bumping begins...
Frank Szabo
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Not that I've any particular fondness for a Reamsters supporter but brownboy may have a point.
I can't speak for the time period following 15 November 2012 (as that's when I retired from Tool & Die, AA Tulsa) but up 'til then there was no mention or hints re: fixturing/tooling/etc. for the new engines coming along with the "New & Improved) 737 and Scarebus aircraft that had been ordered some time before that date. Airframe work doesn't require nearly the preparation (nor investment) as does engine work - the very thing that has been TULE's bread and butter for many years.
Granted, a good deal of the tooling in the blue forest (CFM-56 area) was purchased but there was quite a bit of nickel and dime-type stuff that was run through tooling. I don't recall which engine was selected (if at all) to power the NGs and Scarebus but those engines are such that if there were any intent to work them in house, something should have been in the pipeline by the time I left but was not.
The Pratt geared fan and the CFM "Blisk" design are totally off the charts re: TULE's business as usual re: repairing the engines. As with the 737's CFM56 variants, these critters were probably designed with many "throw away" internal items, cutting the available work for the TULE component shops even further.
Time to take a good look at one's self and goals and make an honest assessment about what's going on within the company, in an attempt to decipher the corporate plan. Remembering Horton's stated attitude towards those who actually run a wrench for a living would be a good thing to toss into the stewpot as well.
I can't speak for the time period following 15 November 2012 (as that's when I retired from Tool & Die, AA Tulsa) but up 'til then there was no mention or hints re: fixturing/tooling/etc. for the new engines coming along with the "New & Improved) 737 and Scarebus aircraft that had been ordered some time before that date. Airframe work doesn't require nearly the preparation (nor investment) as does engine work - the very thing that has been TULE's bread and butter for many years.
Granted, a good deal of the tooling in the blue forest (CFM-56 area) was purchased but there was quite a bit of nickel and dime-type stuff that was run through tooling. I don't recall which engine was selected (if at all) to power the NGs and Scarebus but those engines are such that if there were any intent to work them in house, something should have been in the pipeline by the time I left but was not.
The Pratt geared fan and the CFM "Blisk" design are totally off the charts re: TULE's business as usual re: repairing the engines. As with the 737's CFM56 variants, these critters were probably designed with many "throw away" internal items, cutting the available work for the TULE component shops even further.
Time to take a good look at one's self and goals and make an honest assessment about what's going on within the company, in an attempt to decipher the corporate plan. Remembering Horton's stated attitude towards those who actually run a wrench for a living would be a good thing to toss into the stewpot as well.
You have a point. We do know the MD80 and the JT8 are going away. The landing gear shop will most likely still be operating, but the amount of people in Tulsa will go down as the work goes away. There will be hangar work but less than there is now so I am thinking that the only AMTs with less than 25 years seniority (today) left will be machinists. The A&Ps are going to gone. Tulsa will be a much smaller operation by the time 2018 comes around if it is still here at all.
BigMac
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Thomas Paine
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Not anymore and by 2016 even less.Aren't the majority in TUL yes voters!!
