Bush agrees that a Iraq time table is needed.

[delldude]

Wait, remind me, who waged this war in Iraq (i.e. not afghan)?

Your boy Saddam.Thumbed his nose one too many times it seems.

 

[local 12 proud]

Wait, remind me, who waged this war in Iraq (i.e. not afghan)?

The Insurgents (Terrorist)...thats who!

Your Heros voted to invade before they voted against it.

 

[TWAnr]

Why should Bush not have to do so now?

[sarcasm]
Come on, Garfield, everyone knows that Bush does not have to do so now because he did not receive a blow job from a White House intern.
[/sarcasm]

 

[Gilding the Lily]

The Insurgents (Terrorist)...thats who!

Your Heros voted to invade before they voted against it.

Hmmm... so you say the 'terrorist' waged the war AND then you say that WE voted (American Representatives) to invade. Local, I didn't know you equated the American people as terrorists in Iraq.

A + B = C
aut Bush vincere aut mori; amor patriae

 

[delldude]

Hmmm... so you say the 'terrorist' waged the war AND then you say that WE voted (American Representatives) to invade. Local, I didn't know you equated the American people as terrorists in Iraq.

A + B = C
aut Bush vincere aut mori; amor patriae

Only in your liberal mindset are we Americans terrorists.You must be dining with Nancy and Johnnyboy.

 

[Gilding the Lily]

Only in your liberal mindset are we Americans terrorists.You must be dining with Nancy and Johnnyboy.

I am starting to think that you (Delldude) and Local 12 are the same person with two screen names. For some reason you always reply to the remarks/questions I make to Local 12, and you both have persecutory reactions to any perceived heterodox beliefs.

Nonetheless, I always appreciate a lively discussion... what good is a free country without differing opinions???

 

[delldude]

Well you are unequivocably incorrect in your assumption...

Local, I didn't know you equated the American people as terrorists in Iraq.

As far as a persecutory reactions.....most who characterize their own country as terrorist perpetrators are leftist lib's....

I'm sure Local 12 would agree.....

Were you one of those who think we had it coming on 9/11?

 

[Gilding the Lily]

Were you one of those who think we had it coming on 9/11?

Absolutely NOT!!!!

And I also do not think that we are committing terrorism in Iraq... I was simply repeating the logic used by local 12 (Save that lecture for your buddy local 12).

Seriously though Dell, what do you think... are the Iraqi forces using the US forces as a crutch? In other words, is there a motivating factor for Iraqi forces to step-up to the plate if they can always fall back on the US? If we had a timeline and the Iraqi forces knew we were leaving on a certain date (or phasing out), would that be a more compelling reason for the Iraqi forces to actually start trying harder?

Let me know what you think.

 

[KCFlyer]

Bush did have a timeline...invade March 2003, liberate Iraq May 2003, and then it's all done. Oh wait...that's what his war planners thought. If only Bush would have called his dad and asked him a few questions prior to March 2003.

 

[delldude]

Absolutely NOT!!!!

And I also do not think that we are committing terrorism in Iraq... I was simply repeating the logic used by local 12 (Save that lecture for your buddy local 12).

Seriously though Dell, what do you think... are the Iraqi forces using the US forces as a crutch? In other words, is there a motivating factor for Iraqi forces to step-up to the plate if they can always fall back on the US? If we had a timeline and the Iraqi forces knew we were leaving on a certain date (or phasing out), would that be a more compelling reason for the Iraqi forces to actually start trying harder?

Let me know what you think.

As to what you've mentioned....yes I see some foot dragging by Iraq and from what I've gleaned in the news...Bush is attempting to address that in his recent 'surge' tactic.Therefore a timetable does exist like I provided in another thread.

Outline from the begining for doubtful Thomas's

So what have you to say here?

We have no plan....we have no plan...

The President announced five steps in his plan to achieve freedom and democracy in Iraq. We will:

1. hand over authority to a sovereign Iraqi government;
2. help establish the stability and security in Iraq that democracy requires;
3. continue rebuilding Iraq's infrastructure;
4. encourage more international support; and
5. move toward free, national elections that will bring forward new leaders empowered by the Iraqi people.

 

[Garfield1966]

The President announced five steps in his plan to achieve freedom and democracy in Iraq. We will:

1. hand over authority to a sovereign Iraqi government; When?
2. help establish the stability and security in Iraq that democracy requires; How?
3. continue rebuilding Iraq's infrastructure;
How is that working?
4. encourage more international support; and Bush had international support. He lost all the international support he had when he thumbed his nose at the world. You usually do not get a second chance at things like that.
5. move toward free, national elections that will bring forward new leaders empowered by the Iraqi people. When?

Just a FYI. When I say I will buy a car, that is a merely a statement of what I plan on doing sometime in the future. It could be tomorrow, it could be 20 years from now.


When I say, by Jan 2009 I will have a new car, that is a time line.

 

[delldude]

I'd have to say when he described those conditions being met would qualify as a timeline.You notice he didn't put a specific time on it because he doesn't have a crystal ball.

You asked for info,you got it and now you continue to squirm and manuever.....when you going to fess up?

You been had and won't admit it...

 

[delldude]

I'd have to say when he described those conditions being met would qualify as a timeline.You notice he didn't put a specific time on it because he doesn't have a crystal ball.

You asked for info,you got it and now you continue to squirm and manuever.....when you going to fess up?

You been had and won't admit it...

1. hand over authority to a sovereign Iraqi government

You make this too easy

3. continue rebuilding Iraq's infrastructure;

Rebuilding Iraq

5. move toward free, national elections that will bring forward new leaders empowered by the Iraqi people. When?

On January 30, 2005, the Iraqi people chose representatives for the newly-formed 275-member Iraqi National Assembly in legislative elections. Following the ratification of the constitution of Iraq on October 15, 2005, a general election was called for 15 December to elect a permanent 275-member Iraqi National Assembly.

When I say, by Jan 2009 I will have a new car, that is a time line.

Withdrawing on an artificial deadline would endanger the American people, harm our military, and make the Middle East less stable.

 

[Garfield1966]

Iraqi government is sovereign? Are you serious? If that qualifies as sovereign in your eyes, then we have nothing further to discuss because we are using polar opposites for definitions.

The current Iraqi government can’t turn around to take a piss with out the express permission in triplicate from the US occupying forces.

White house press release as a non-bias source? Nice

Another versio of the rebuilding.

Bush said he wanted a time line back in 1999. The only point I was making is that he lied then and he is unwilling to face reality now.

 

[delldude]

Well now Garfield...what have you to say for yourself?
Cut and run with Nancy?

"This bill will deprive us of the opportunity to destroy the American forces which we have caught in a historic trap," Zawahiri says in answer to a question posed to him an interviewer. Continuing in the same tone, Zawahiri says, "We ask Allah that they only get out of it after losing 200,000 to 300,000 killed, in order that we give the spillers of blood in Washington and Europe an unforgettable lesson."

So much for your timeline Klein Katze....