Blue Flu

[MarkMyWords]

OK, playing devils advocate here........

Now let's say things went down the way you wanted it to. The Reserve was deadheaded to PHL and picked up the rest of the trip, the blockholder is sent home. Now the blockholder comes into Teddy's office complaining about what happened. What would your response be to the blockholder?

 

[PITbull]

Well, I know no matter what I say, I am going to be wrong in your eyes, but for discussion sake, here we go.
These are F/A's again with up to 16 years of seniority depending on where they are based, who have gone back on Reserve because of the cutbacks in the company. So it is not their choice to commute on Reserve, they have no choice in the matter!

As for the F/A Pitbull was mentioning, it's not a matter of a delayed flight or even her getting paid for the trip. It comes down to the treatment of her situation and what's going on with the F/A's on Reserve. This is just one of the many POOR working conditions the employees are dealing with and are trying to change for the better. Don't judge until you've walked in their shoes! <_<

[post="203542"][/post]​

This post is 100% accurate. And some of the fruastration added to the reserves who are broke, is the commute expense on a horrifically reduced wage...

 

[MarkMyWords]

Whatnow -

Once again, the option to live out of base rests solely on the employee. If you chose not to live in base, then you bare the burden the expenses and hassle of commutting. If those same expenses and hassle become so overwhelming, then you also have the option of moving back to base. This isn't the first couple of months of the new reserve system. While the paycuts are new, we've known since last Noveber that they were coming. If you didn't adapt your lifestyle to these changes then you have no one to blame but yourself.

 

[PITbull]

OK, playing devils advocate here........

Now let's say things went down the way you wanted it to. The Reserve was deadheaded to PHL and picked up the rest of the trip, the blockholder is sent home. Now the blockholder comes into Teddy's office complaining about what happened. What would your response be to the blockholder?

[post="203544"][/post]​

Well if I were Teddy, I would say to the blockholder that when you don't sign in for the trip, not only do you lose the trip, but you get a "NO Show". The f/a knows better and needs to pay attention and not get distracted by others and not "sign in".

What this sceduler did by allowing the line holder to stay on the trip is foster bad behavior and not signing in is also a violation of our contract and responsibilities.

"Snooze/ you lose" is what Teddy would say, and what I have heard her say time and time again on such cases.

Trust, it doesn't happen a second time with these f/as.

 

[MarkMyWords]

Glad to hear it.......thanks. =)

 

[PITbull]

Whatnow -

Once again, the option to live out of base rests solely on the employee. If you chose not to live in base, then you bare the burden the expenses and hassle of commutting. If those same expenses and hassle become so overwhelming, then you also have the option of moving back to base. This isn't the first couple of months of the new reserve system. While the paycuts are new, we've known since last Noveber that they were coming. If you didn't adapt your lifestyle to these changes then you have no one to blame but yourself.

[post="203547"][/post]​

MMW,

Why do you insist on acting like a Bozo. The displacement issue has happened 3 times in two years. F/as don't know where they will be based from 1 6 month of returnees to the next, or furloughs that may take place that leaves holes in the bases. This is not the f/a choosing. Displacement is a forced transfer. Folks have kids families, day care people, its not that easy just picking up and running after a job that not only doesn't pay for your move or busted leases, but doesn't pay enough to even work this job.

 

[MarkMyWords]

While I agree that the dynamics of the crew bases have changed, we are not talking about a 5 year flight attendant here. We are talking about someone with 16 years. I am sure this person hasn't been bumped from base to base chasing her job. I stand by my statement that if you chose to commute then you better be prepared to pay the expenses and tolerate the hassles. If you can't do that, then it is time for you to move back to base. I know it sounds cold, but I can't muster a lot of tears for someone because they can't afford to commute. They chose to commute, no one forced them to do it. How is that any different then Lakefield whinning about needing his salary to pay for a second house in VA?

 

[Whatnow?]

Why don't you try and deal with a 21-70% paycut and then we'll talk about what is right and what is wrong! You obviously are not part of any Union here, so again don't judge anyone until you've walked in their shoes!

 

[openview]

Well if I were Teddy, I would say to the blockholder that when you don't sign in for the trip, not only do you lose the trip, but you get a "NO Show". The f/a knows better and needs to pay attention and not get distracted by others and not "sign in".

What this sceduler did by allowing the line holder to stay on the trip is foster bad behavior and not signing in is also a violation of our contract and responsibilities.

"Snooze/ you lose" is what Teddy would say

Well, let's hope the company doesn't snooze by not eliminating all such contract language.

 

[fatherabraham]

Had to entertain my wife’s friends this eve. Of course he had to tell me about his 2+ hour wait for bags last Sat eve in Phl.

BTW, he is a cfo and frequent traveler on Usair. He knows the score and deals with union construction daily.

Thought for a moment about explaining the many many factors that could have enabled said delay , but realized the futility of the exercise.

Rather I said that I have learned that my expectations of service at the Wall Mart tool section will be quite less than at my local hardware. I think he might need to adjust his expectations going forward concerning air travel.

Nuf said....will likely find another to commiserate with.

 

[firstamendment]

What do the following have in common?

LAX
SFO
SAN
BWI
SYR
MIA

All these were bases closed since US Airways merge PSA, Piedmont, and USAir. Maybe people are tired of the constant closing of crew bases. And lets not forget the cities yanked from our system and the employees that had to leave their homes.

And as PITBULL mentioned, lest we forget all the displacements.

It's much more complicated then what people think.