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[WorldTraveler]

funny that all DL employees managed to share the same 16.5% profit sharing for the last year, and that has been the same every year before....

 

[Kev3188]

only the concessions they take will be passed on to the rest of us........

...Or we'll subsidize their gains. Either or...

 

[700UW]

funny that all DL employees managed to share the same 16.5% profit sharing for the last year, and that has been the same every year before....

How about in 2013 when DL cut the PS by 33% and the pilots got a 20% raise while ACS got 4%-8% during the same time frame.......

 

[Kev3188]

I have not received 16.5% every year. What recourse do I have to remedy that?

 

[700UW]

I have not received 16.5% every year. What recourse do I have to remedy that?

None at the moment until you become unionized once again.

WT would never give you the truthful answer.

 

[WorldTraveler]

...Or we'll subsidize their gains. Either or...

again you have received the greatest increase in compensation of any airline employee.

If you want to join a union so you can have control but make less, do so.

your peers aren't interested.  
 

How about in 2013 when DL cut the PS by 33% and the pilots got a 20% raise while ACS got 4%-8% during the same time frame.......

 
 
for someone that harps endlessly about others telling the truth, you couldn't be more wrong.

DL non-contract employees obtained far more in pay raises than you say.

and DL said then that the pilot contract was cost-neutral for the company. The pilots got nothing that DL wasn't going to spend elsewhere.

they didn't come close to say that about their other labor groups.


you conveniently forgot to include that part.
 

I have not received 16.5% every year. What recourse do I have to remedy that?

didn't say you received 16.5% every year.

but as long as you have been a DL employee, you have received the exact same percentage as every other DL employee that participates in profit sharing.

what kind of recourse do you think you need to fix equality?

 

[700UW]

No they did not your nothing but a liar.
 
From June 2012 till the end of 2014 Pilots received 20% increases in pay.
 
In the same time period DL gave the non-contract employees 2%-4% per year, depending on when they were hired.

Stop with the lies already.

 

[WorldTraveler]

and DL non-contract employees received far more than 8% over the same time period.

stop with the endless union sales job.

If DL employees want a cut in pay in order to be on par with their peers at AA and UA, they'll elect union representation.

They are not biting which comes as a surprise to no one.

 

[700UW]

No they did not, those raises is what they got.
 
Keep up the lies, Kevin and Dawg will  back my statements as fact.
 
Why do you insist on lying all the time when you know you will be shown to be wrong once again?

 

[WorldTraveler]

I am not looking for Kev's or dawg's validation

the facts are all that the difference between DL pilots and non-contract workers was less than 5%.

DL pilots gave up scope with more large RJs in order to gain the additional pay they got.

but once again, you absolutely LOVE to try to argue about what DL employees DIDN'T GET with a union instead of defend how IAM represented employees have fared so poorly including with the massive SCOPE gutting that UA did.

but they voted for it, so it is all right, yes?

U R the hypocrite if I ever saw one

 

[BABABOOY]

No they did not, those raises is what they got.
 
Keep up the lies, Kevin and Dawg will  back my statements as fact.
 
Why do you insist on lying all the time when you know you will be shown to be wrong once again?

Wow if that's not a sign of desperation I do know what one is. Sad

You can't refute facts so you cry for help.

 

[700UW]

Wake up:
 
http://skift.com/2013/09/05/deltas-improving-numbers-will-result-in-raises-for-nearly-80000-workers/

 

September 5, 2013
 
Atlanta-based Delta said it will give customer-facing employees raises of up to 3 percent effective April 1, following previous rounds of pay increases. Meanwhile, other employees will get raises of varying amounts from a 3 percent merit pool, based on performance and other factors.

 

Unionized employees — at Delta, primarily pilots — get raises on different terms according to their contracts.
But one key factor will cut into employees’ take-home pay: An increase next year in Delta’s health care costs because of health care reform and health care inflation. Delta said it will absorb about 85 percent of the $100 million in additional costs. The rest will be borne by plan participants through premium increases ranging from $3 to $22 per month in account-based plans, along with other changes, according to a memo from Delta Chief Executive Richard Anderson.
 

 

[WorldTraveler]

we're fully awake.

you are the one that someone wants to think that DL pilots have walked away with the bank while non-contract employees got next to nothing.

and all of your nitpicking and class warfare only hides the fact that DL's non-contract employees have received far more WITHOUT a union than the IAM or any other union has obtained for its employees in comparable workgroups.

like a true Pharisee, you can always find the speck in someone else's eye but be unable to see the log in your own.

If you were half as committed to making the IAM and other unions even half as capable in DELIVERING for current unionized employees as you talk, unionization in the US would grow including at DL.

but the vast majority of DL employees are not going to cut their salaries just so they can carry around a union card.

 

[700UW]

Keep ignoring the facts pilots got 20%, non-union got 4%-8% over the same time period.

Those are facts, refute them, oh wait you can't do you throw anything out there and see if it will stick.

 

[WorldTraveler]

the APA ended up with far larger increases than the APFA at AA.

where is your outrage at that?

and again, thanks for confirming how ashamed you are of the fact that the majority of DL employees have increased their pay more without a union than any union has done for the comparable workgroups.