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America West Operation Bears Cost of Merger

The 10-Q SEC Quarterly Report filed by US Airways, Inc. showed a consolidated net profit of $263 million. When broken down further, it showed a profit for US Airways and a slight loss for America West. When we dug a bit deeper into the financials, we found the following note:

“The operating expenses of AWA reflect expenses for certain services shared with US Airways. During the first six months of 2007, in anticipation of merging to a single operating certificate, operations of AWA and US Airways continued to be integrated, including the migration to a single reservation system in early March. During the second quarter and first six months of 2007, shared services included reservations, technology and data processing services and corporate functions such as tax, legal, compliance.â€￾

This essentially means that for financial purposes, America West (financially at the very least) is bearing some of the huge administrative costs from our acquisition of US Airways in 2005. It bears pointing out that America West registered large profits for 2005 and 2006 and would have been very profitable save for these expenses that have been thrust upon us as a result of the merger. We have posted the entire 10-Q on the AWA MEC website for those who are interested.

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More Work for Less Pay


The following is the approximate economic gain that the average East pilot would have received under management’s first proposal:

Captain: $28,975
First Officer: $15,766
These figures include an additional 10 days of vacation for pilots at the top of the accrual scale. Of course, this does not include the substantially improved work rules East pilots would gain, as well as full pay for deadheads, much improved pairing constructions rules, more golden days, 12 to 13 total days off for reserve pilots, etc.

To “pay it forward,â€￾ if we could have generated a joint contract by December 2007 prior to the East meltdown, and the East continues down the path of separate operations with no gain likely until at least two years past their amendable date of December 2009, that means the East MEC have likely forfeited the following amounts on behalf of their pilots:

Captain: $115,900
First Officer: $63,064
These total figures do not include the higher rates to achieve ratification or any outlying year increases, nor do they include any increased payments to the DC retirement plan.

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Volunteer Expenses

Last year, the America West MEC officers, all those who served combined, were reimbursed $45,599 in expenses. By comparison, the East MEC officers were reimbursed approximately $86,331. Several other MECs, many smaller than ours, also reimbursed a higher level of member expenses.

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Educating the Truth


During the Arbitration Board hearings, the US Airways MEC tried in vain to prove that their Profit Sharing and Stock Plan already gave them an “equivalentâ€￾ contract to the America West pilots. This presentation lasted nearly an hour and culminated in a short exchange between the Arbitrator and the witness (Don Hollerbach of the AAA MEC Negotiating Committee). We think it speaks for itself:

CHAIRMAN NICOLAU: Mr. Hollerbach, I am not sure. Who is getting these adjusted rates now?

THE WITNESS: I am sorry.

CHAIRMAN NICOLAU: Who is getting these adjusted rates?

THE WITNESS: No one is getting these adjusted rates, this is what these -- well, to be quite honest with you, the adjusted rates are what our rates would have been, based on what we have actually received on a per hour basis.

MR. BRUCIA: Are you saying they are equivalents?

THE WITNESS: Equivalents.

CHAIRMAN NICOLAU: Whose rates, USAir --

THE WITNESS: U.S. Air's rates plus the value of the stock options, what the value of the $70 million lump sum would be and the value of the profit sharing.

CHAIRMAN NICOLAU: Does this mean the new company doesn't have to bring the USAir pilots up to the America West scale.

THE WITNESS: No.

MR. FREUND: Works for us.

CHAIRMAN NICOLAU: Okay.

MR. KATZ: There is a distinction that I think you have been explaining between the adjusted rates in these box for USAir pilots and the adjusted rate calculation for the America West pilots.

CHAIRMAN NICOLAU: I didn't hear it.

Source: AAA/AWA Seniority Integration Hearing Transcripts
Volume 14, January 22, 2007
 
Machinists Engage in End-Game Negotiations


Our union brothers and sisters at the IAM are engaged in final, end-game negotiations to try and achieve a joint contract for all mechanics. What you won’t hear is that this was an idea that ALPA approached management with several months ago for our JNC talks. We wanted to get some of the smaller items closed out then go away for two weeks and try and get a close-out deal consummated for your consideration and ratification. We wish our union brothers and sisters the best of luck, and we hope they achieve a good contract for their members.

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MODERATORS NOTE--THIS IS THE SAME STATEMENT AS THE ORIGINAL POST- THE two threads have been combined here.
 
We've entered Tania'a "MAJOR SPIN ZONE".

Wasting time grasping at straws.

A320 Driver B)
 
To “pay it forward,â€￾ if we could have generated a joint contract by December 2007 prior to the East meltdown, and the East continues down the path of separate operations with no gain likely until at least two years past their amendable date of December 2009, that means the East MEC have likely forfeited the following amounts on behalf of their pilots:

Captain: $115,900
First Officer: $63,064
These total figures do not include the higher rates to achieve ratification or any outlying year increases, nor do they include any increased payments to the DC retirement plan.


This difference will be tempered by the 70mil payout to US pilots if we remain under the LOA.
It would have been less if we didn't let you share in the profit that we negotiated or raise your retirement contributions with the TA.
As has been posted elsewhere the protection for our lower end guys is priceless when we merge again.
 
In his August 1 chairman's message Jack Stephan said, "The profitability road that we are on is squarely on the backs of the AAA pilots. And as the breakdown of the second quarter financials indicate, the AWA portion of the operation continues to show a loss. This makes it all the more disheartening to learn that the AWA MEC approached management and relayed that the "West pilots would be outraged if the East was granted parity." Such sentiment sinks to a level that is not representative of our profession or of unionism at its most basic form. The inescapable reality remains that we make less for doing the same job."

"On another matter related to equal pay for equal work, and equally as irritating, the AWA leadership continues to report to their pilots and other parties that we are not truthful in our communications to our pilots. I personally take exception to their claim. While I served you as Communications Chairman and while I have served you as MEC Chairman, your leadership has consistently reported the good, the bad, and the ugly and we will continue to do just that. To suggest that your leadership is guilty of protecting you from the truth, reflects a mindset that “just doesn’t get it.â€￾ I hope you share the indignation of your elected representatives and your MEC Officers over this totally inappropriate accusation. We remain committed solely to the US Airways pilots and we work for you, period. As for the offhand comments of the AWA leadership, we will consider the source and we will refrain, as always, from commenting on their affairs. We will continue to be professional in all our communications," Stephan continued.

USA320Pilot comments: I have known Jack Stephan for over 20 year's and he is a man of impeccable integrity. When he calls a spade a spade it is a spade. The purposeful misinformation by the AWA MEC and its integrity is further fueling the fire of the US Airways pilots and I believe increases the odds of separate contracts and separate operations and that the EC will continue its position of not passing the Nicolau Award onto the company.

Why? If either option does not occur a certain decertification of ALPA on both the East and West property will occur and the East pilots may burn the company down to the ground. Management's recourse? Breaking up the airline.

Therefore, to keep the business enterprise intact the only way to do this appears to be separate operations and separate contracts.

Regards,

USA320Pilot
 
And as the breakdown of the second quarter financials indicate, the AWA portion of the operation continues to show a loss.

USA320Pilot
USA320pilot is intentionally misrepresenting the facts. As was pointed out in the beginning of this thread, there are significant costs that were removed from the East operation that are now being paid by the West operation. This artificially raises the Easts "profit" and artificially creates the West "loss."

The truth is in the details, and there are some on the East side who would prefer to distract people from seeing those details with their constant rhetoric.
 
This essentially means that for financial purposes, America West (financially at the very least) is bearing some of the huge administrative costs from our acquisition of US Airways in 2005. It bears pointing out that America West registered large profits for 2005 and 2006 and would have been very profitable save for these expenses that have been thrust upon us as a result of the merger.


Don't expect the East to acknowledge this. It will fall on deaf ears as they continue to live in denial and only recognize arguments that support their view of the world.

The FACTS you post above will be categorically dismissed by the East.

Keep up the good fight.
 
Don't expect the East to acknowledge this. It will fall on deaf ears as they continue to live in denial and only recognize arguments that support their view of the world.

The FACTS you post above will be categorically dismissed by the East.

Keep up the good fight.


Facts...what facts. The FACT is AWA has some of the administrative costs. Big deal. Smoking gun or just smoke? How much was it? 1 million, 5, 10...more? Still won't change the whopping difference in profit potential East vs West.

Happy now?

A320 Driver B)
 
Facts...what facts. The FACT is AWA has some of the administrative costs. Big deal. Smoking gun or just smoke? How much was it? 1 million, 5, 10...more? Still won't change the whopping difference in profit potential East vs West.

Happy now?

A320 Driver B)

As it's been said before, AWA has and continues to carry the east. I know it hurts bro but this too shall pass
 
Don't expect the East to acknowledge this. It will fall on deaf ears as they continue to live in denial and only recognize arguments that support their view of the world.

The FACTS you post above will be categorically dismissed by the East.

Keep up the good fight.

I know but I keep hoping that intellect will eventually sink in.

We will keep up the fight until the fight is done. Now just waiting on their ultimate crank step move of decertiying.
 
As it's been said before, AWA has and continues to carry the east. I know it hurts bro but this too shall pass


AWA carries the East??????


AWA carries the East's money to the bank.

AWA carries our profits to a lower total.


You all need to stop helping us Easties
 
USA320pilot is intentionally misrepresenting the facts. As was pointed out in the beginning of this thread, there are significant costs that were removed from the East operation that are now being paid by the West operation. This artificially raises the Easts "profit" and artificially creates the West "loss."

The truth is in the details, and there are some on the East side who would prefer to distract people from seeing those details with their constant rhetoric.

Ok there Mr United,

How about putting the numbers down for all to see. Let's hear the truth according to Mr United.

I can't wait to see/hear this one!
 

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