Any news on TLV service and AA's obligations?

zethya said:
Show me your reference for this statement. Specifically, provide the Trans-Atlantic Yield data (all cities combined) for US, AA and UA for 2012.
Who the hell are you, my effing boss?   Your post is a most impolite way of asking someone to do your research for you.  
 
If you think I've posted fautly assertions, then do some homework and post data that contradicts my post.   Form 41 data is publicly available.   Hint:   In every year since at least 1995 thru 2012,  US has had lower Atlantic yields than AA, DL, NW, UA or CO.
 
700UW said:
Actually I posted a while back, US' actually had better profit margin on its TA flying than any other US carrier, I am trying to find the numbers once again.
Yes, please cut and paste some airliners.net teenager's chart that doesn't address the issue here, and that's the fact that US has attracted the industry's lowest TATL yields for at least 18 years in a row.    Given the very low pilot (and until recently, FA) payrates, it's no surprise that in that one particular quarter analyzed in your favorite chart, US allegedly had the largest profit margin.   That's what industry-lagging flight crew pay helps achieve.   
 
robbedagain said:
Fwaa is that due to the low fare advantage?
The reason for the historic pattern of low TATL yields is due to low nonstop demand from PHL and CLT. Higher percentages of connecting passengers who generally pay lower fares.
 
FWAAA said:
Who the hell are you, my effing boss?   Your post is a most impolite way of asking someone to do your research for you.  
 
If you think I've posted fautly assertions, then do some homework and post data that contradicts my post.   Form 41 data is publicly available.   Hint:   In every year since at least 1995 thru 2012,  US has had lower Atlantic yields than AA, DL, NW, UA or CO.
 
Yes, please cut and paste some airliners.net teenager's chart that doesn't address the issue here, and that's the fact that US has attracted the industry's lowest TATL yields for at least 18 years in a row.    Given the very low pilot (and until recently, FA) payrates, it's no surprise that in that one particular quarter analyzed in your favorite chart, US allegedly had the largest profit margin.   That's what industry-lagging flight crew pay helps achieve.   
 
Your immature remarks and high and mighty attitude do not prove your assertions. Referring to Form 41 for this information is a typical method of clouding the issue. IF YOU MAKE ASSERTIONS, YOU ARE THE ONE RESPONSIBLE FOR PROVIDING THE CITATION/REFERENCE TO PROVE IT - NOT THE READER !!  I again ask you to provide, CREDIBLE, PUBLISHED proof of your assertion that US Airways had the lowest Trans-Atlantic Yields of the 4 U.S. Carriers (UA(CO), AA, DL and US) for the year 2012 and also your now "18 years in a ROW" claim. Otherwise, consider going back to the AA Board and sulk awhile.
 
zethya said:
 
Who the hell are you, my effing boss?   Your post is a most impolite way of asking someone to do your research for you.  
 
If you think I've posted fautly assertions, then do some homework and post data that contradicts my post.   Form 41 data is publicly available.   Hint:   In every year since at least 1995 thru 2012,  US has had lower Atlantic yields than AA, DL, NW, UA or CO.
 
Yes, please cut and paste some airliners.net teenager's chart that doesn't address the issue here, and that's the fact that US has attracted the industry's lowest TATL yields for at least 18 years in a row.    Given the very low pilot (and until recently, FA) payrates, it's no surprise that in that one particular quarter analyzed in your favorite chart, US allegedly had the largest profit margin.   That's what industry-lagging flight crew pay helps achieve.   
 
Your immature remarks and high and mighty attitude do not prove your assertions. Referring to Form 41 for this information is a typical method of clouding the issue. IF YOU MAKE ASSERTIONS, YOU ARE THE ONE RESPONSIBLE FOR PROVIDING THE CITATION/REFERENCE TO PROVE IT - NOT THE READER !!  I again ask you to provide, CREDIBLE, PUBLISHED proof of your assertion that US Airways had the lowest Trans-Atlantic Yields of the 4 U.S. Carriers (UA(CO), AA, DL and US) for the year 2012 and also your now "18 years in a ROW" claim. Otherwise, consider going back to the AA Board and sulk awhile.
 
I think we have found AA's equivalent of Delta's World Traveler.....FWAAA
 
cynic said:
I would expect the government to contact the company and negotiations to begin shortly after the merger is finalized. That's assuming it hasn't happened already.
However seizing an A330 on the first day it arrives in TLV once AA/US are a new entity does give the Israelis a pretty good leverage in negotiations ... ... ...
 
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FrugalFlyerv2.0 said:
However seizing an A330 on the first day it arrives in TLV once AA/US are a new entity does give the Israelis a pretty good leverage in negotiations ... ... ...
 Hey, we are back on topic!  :)
 
That would be an incentive for the company to pay up!   I wonder if the TWA folks have a lawyer on it.
 
how would they actually seize a US commercial jet given the security?     My apologizes for my part on takin it off topic
 
The AA TLV issue has been taken care of . The New AA will have no issues operating into Israel moving forward .
 

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