AMT PAY RATES

[BeenThereDoneThat]

I am trying to compile a list of AMT pay rates (starting and top out) for each of the airlines. I figure posting on each airline forum is the quickest and easiest way to get the information. Once I compile the list, I will post it for all to see. If anyone can help me out, I would appreciate it.

 

[CSAR GYRENE]

I am trying to compile a list of AMT pay rates (starting and top out) for each of the airlines. I figure posting on each airline forum is the quickest and easiest way to get the information. Once I compile the list, I will post it for all to see. If anyone can help me out, I would appreciate it.

"AMT" or "A and P"? There is a difference.

 

[local 12 proud]

"AMT" or "A and P"? There is a difference.

Thats not necessarily so CSAR, (AMT) Aviation Maintenance Technician is really just a generic term that pertains to the craft. You must hold a certificate with (A&P) Ratings issued by the FAA in order to sign an aircraft off as airworthy. My certificate says Im a mechanic with airframe & powerplant ratings.

 

[Kev3188]

"AMT" or "A and P"? There is a difference.

CSAR--

How's about you posting the inspector rates at the "new NW?"

 

[PurduePete]

I am trying to compile a list of AMT pay rates (starting and top out) for each of the airlines. I figure posting on each airline forum is the quickest and easiest way to get the information. Once I compile the list, I will post it for all to see. If anyone can help me out, I would appreciate it.

BeenThere, since none of the scabs that frequent this site seem to want to provide you the information, here is what NW put forth in their "last best offer" to their technicians on Aug. 18, 2005 (before the strike)...

Reduce base pay 25.7% (from $30.89 to $22.95 per hour),
Reduce license premium from $2.50 to $1.79 per license (2 license max.),
Reduce line pay from $.55 to $.09 per hour,
Reduce shift differential from $.51 to $.41 per hour for afternoon shift and from $.58 to $.46 per hour for night shift.

So, the most that someone could be making now at NW is $27.08 per hour (if they worked midnights on the line). From what I've heard, many do not even make that much - and those that are not in line maintenance do not even get the license premiums added to their pay. Also, there are no longer any pay premiums for Lead Technicians, Inspectors, or Lead Inspectors.

I do not know if the company has since reduced the scabs pay scale after the strike started, or plans on doing it after the other unions agree to their concessionary contracts.

Hope that this helps...

 

[PlayTheOdds]

Thats not necessarily so CSAR, (AMT) Aviation Maintenance Technician is really just a generic term that pertains to the craft. You must hold a certificate with (A&P) Ratings issued by the FAA in order to sign an aircraft off as airworthy. My certificate says Im a mechanic with airframe & powerplant ratings.

There is a big difference between the two. AMT's that do not hold an A&P does not receive Premium payouts as an A&P does for each rating. You are correct about the AMT Title being a Generic term, it covers every Tom, Dick and Harry that looks at an aircraft and some that don't.

 

[TheRealSaabmeister]

There is a big difference between the two. AMT's that do not hold an A&P does not receive Premium payouts as an A&P does for each rating. You are correct about the AMT Title being a Generic term, it covers every Tom, Dick and Harry that looks at an aircraft and some that don't.

Let me guess, you were Dick, right?

 

[BeenThereDoneThat]

BeenThere, since none of the scabs that frequent this site seem to want to provide you the information, here is what NW put forth in their "last best offer" to their technicians on Aug. 18, 2005 (before the strike)...

Reduce base pay 25.7% (from $30.89 to $22.95 per hour),
Reduce license premium from $2.50 to $1.79 per license (2 license max.),
Reduce line pay from $.55 to $.09 per hour,
Reduce shift differential from $.51 to $.41 per hour for afternoon shift and from $.58 to $.46 per hour for night shift.

So, the most that someone could be making now at NW is $27.08 per hour (if they worked midnights on the line). From what I've heard, many do not even make that much - and those that are not in line maintenance do not even get the license premiums added to their pay. Also, there are no longer any pay premiums for Lead Technicians, Inspectors, or Lead Inspectors.

I do not know if the company has since reduced the scabs pay scale after the strike started, or plans on doing it after the other unions agree to their concessionary contracts.

Hope that this helps...

"Pete" thanks for the info. It does help. So far you are the only reply that has helped, Air Tran had a posting that gave their info. Again, thanks.

 

[local 12 proud]

There is a big difference between the two. AMT's that do not hold an A&P does not receive Premium payouts as an A&P does for each rating. You are correct about the AMT Title being a Generic term, it covers every Tom, Dick and Harry that looks at an aircraft and some that don't.

The term (AMT) can also apply to an A&P, I also know mechanics that hold A&P Ratings and are not paid a license premium, where I work they are titled OSM's.

Once again SCAB, you don't know what the f..k your talking about!

 

[Don Smith]

Are we really going to get into this line of conversation again just because the "genius" brought it up? Haven't we been through this before?
AMT - the blanket job description
A&P - the specific job description.
Hey Pete...Did they really get rid of the higher pay for inspectors?

 

[local 12 proud]

Are we really going to get into this line of conversation again just because the "genius" brought it up? Haven't we been through this before?
AMT - the blanket job description
A&P - the specific job description.
Hey Pete...Did they really get rid of the higher pay for inspectors?

Well if the "genius" continues to grace these boards with his ignorance, I will continue to expose It. 😀

 

[groundcontrol]

"Pete" thanks for the info. It does help. So far you are the only reply that has helped, Air Tran had a posting that gave their info. Again, thanks.

I don't think too many AMT's are proud to tell you what they make....
I was employed by US for a grand total of 1 week before I quit....
Being a Wal-mart greeter @ $8.00 an hour makes more sense than earning $17.00 an hour for my 24 years of expertise.
Sad,Sad,Sad,Sad,Sad,Sad,Sad, 🙁
(ps...I am not a Wal-mart greeter)

 

[BeenThereDoneThat]

I don't think too many AMT's are proud to tell you what they make....

The original question was not asking AMTs to tell what they make as individuals, only the starting and top out pay rates. It is insulting (IMO) to have someone say that we are receiving near “industry standardâ€￾ wages and if we don’t like it, there is the door. If everyone knows what that standard is, then it is knowledge and it can be used during negotiations for the next contract.

The info may not help me, but hopefully it might benefit someone down the line.

 

[AMFAMAN]

I am trying to compile a list of AMT pay rates (starting and top out) for each of the airlines. I figure posting on each airline forum is the quickest and easiest way to get the information. Once I compile the list, I will post it for all to see. If anyone can help me out, I would appreciate it.

Copy of twu/aa contract. Note we have OSM's and other classifications of mechanics at lower wages.

http://www.twuatd.org/aarestructure/contra...R-V7-041003.pdf

pay chart
http://www.twuatd.org/aarestructure/payscalesmandr.htm

 

[PurduePete]

Are we really going to get into this line of conversation again just because the "genius" brought it up? Haven't we been through this before?
AMT - the blanket job description
A&P - the specific job description.
Hey Pete...Did they really get rid of the higher pay for inspectors?

Don, I do not know for sure if the premium pay for inspectors has been eliminated. None of the scabs on board here have disputed the numbers yet, so I would assume that they are indeed topped out at $27.08/hr.

During my picket duty, I see a few of the scab inspectors that I used to know as they leave work, but the topic of pay never enters into the conversation...

BeenThere, glad to have been of some help. I should have stated that the $27.08/hr was for a topped out scab with 5+ yrs. of seniority with NWA. The base pay for a new hire was also reduced by 25.7% from $21.43 to $15.92 per hour. I do remember that the company was offering the scabs $32.00/hr and a $2000 bonus at the beginning of the strike - I highly doubt that any of them are making anywhere near that much now, unless they work OT.