Amfa Wannabes

[Bob Owens]

Boy it sems like they will try anything to get that number.

If they are so confident in the TWU then why would they care? Why not just say. "Ok lets just have the vote and get it over with?"

Because, if there is a vote, they are gone!

 

[Ken MacTiernan]

twuer and cio, you want the official crad count that AMFA filed with? I wil tell you. It is 50% +1 of the eligible craft and class. Oh, plus a lot more. Hope this helps.

When you go fishing cio make sure you are on union business. After AMFA defeats the twu in the upcoming election you will be busy figuring out how open your tool box.

 

[proAMFA]

Ken,

I wasn't going to make this public but we just filed with 33% and were hoping nobody would notice the shortfall.

 

[Rusty]

By my tally we filed with 100% of the cards we had at the time of filing!!!! Hope this helps. 🙄

 

[AA Dispatch]

This is direct from the National Mediation Board Representation Manual…

3.0 EVIDENCE OF DISPUTE - AUTHORIZATIONS

3.5 Confidentiality of Authorizations

Authorizations will be handled only by NMB representatives.
The NMB keeps all authorizations confidential. This includes the names of individuals who have signed authorizations and the number of authorizations submitted. The carrier or opposing party or parties should not be privy to the number or percentage of authorizations furnished.

The TWU tried the same tactic with the Dispatchers. They will try EVERYTHING in their power to invalidate or stop the process from moving forward.

So, cio and twuer, are you trying to subvert the NMB rules and nullify the election process?? Seems like a dirty, underhanded trick, but then again, we are talking about the TWU…

 

[Decision 2004]

I am not concerned.

There will be an election.

It is just good politics to inform everyone of the activity of everyone involved.

Just be patient and watch what happens next.

 

[Johnny Lunchbox]

Is that like..."Keep your attention on FM1!"?

 

[High Speed Steel]

It makes you wonder what has been promised (AKA) TWU informer, or Decision 2004 in the event AMFA should win in this dispute....? Is there an un-elected, (APPOINTED) position by "ALF" himself available.....?
What is to happen to this individual? With his credibililty tarnished, due to his failures in the AMFA campaign. What is to happen to this individual, " Dave Stewart"......? A NON-Licensed Mechanic......!

This again brings to light, Why did "Dave Sewart" volunteer for a 90 day Labor Loan in Hanger #2.....? He is AMFA supportive, is not a licensed mechanic, was not qualified for this assignment due to being a Crew Chief in a bid position, has not exorcised his seniority in the past 3 years, and has not provided the success to satisfy "ALF" in this camgpaign.....!!!!!!!!!!!

Sounds like someone trying to protect "THEIR" seniority rights.......!!!!!!!!!!!

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AMFA: The YUGO of the labor movement
Where bargaining means YOU GO.....!

 

[j7915]

This is direct from the National Mediation Board Representation Manual?

3.0 EVIDENCE OF DISPUTE - AUTHORIZATIONS

3.5 Confidentiality of Authorizations

Authorizations will be handled only by NMB representatives.
The NMB keeps all authorizations confidential. This includes the names of individuals who have signed authorizations and the number of authorizations submitted. The carrier or opposing party or parties should not be privy to the number or percentage of authorizations furnished.

The TWU tried the same tactic with the Dispatchers. They will try EVERYTHING in their power to invalidate or stop the process from moving forward.

So, cio and twuer, are you trying to subvert the NMB rules and nullify the election process?? Seems like a dirty, underhanded trick, but then again, we are talking about the TWU?

The confidentiality of the card signers is BS. I received a letter from AMFA that plainly stated that they send me that letter because I had NOT send them a card.

Now If all authorization cards were send directly to the NMB...I would believe the statement.

Why are the organizers so reluctant to post the totals? I thought with AMFA everything is out in the open?

 

[1AA]

This is direct from the National Mediation Board Representation Manual?

3.0 EVIDENCE OF DISPUTE - AUTHORIZATIONS

3.5 Confidentiality of Authorizations

Authorizations will be handled only by NMB representatives.
The NMB keeps all authorizations confidential. This includes the names of individuals who have signed authorizations and the number of authorizations submitted. The carrier or opposing party or parties should not be privy to the number or percentage of authorizations furnished.

The TWU tried the same tactic with the Dispatchers. They will try EVERYTHING in their power to invalidate or stop the process from moving forward.

So, cio and twuer, are you trying to subvert the NMB rules and nullify the election process?? Seems like a dirty, underhanded trick, but then again, we are talking about the TWU?

The confidentiality of the card signers is BS. I received a letter from AMFA that plainly stated that they send me that letter because I had NOT send them a card.

Now If all authorization cards were send directly to the NMB...I would believe the statement.

Why are the organizers so reluctant to post the totals? I thought with AMFA everything is out in the open?

Did you stop to think that when they notified you that you did not fill out a card was when the organizers were collecting PRIOR to the NMB filing? If you use a check off list and your name is not checked off then that would make sense, don't you think?


Yes, the AMFA is about being open and honest. As of now the cards are in the hands of the NMB and my understanding is that additional cards were filed after the initial filing a week ago yesterday. Any additional cards will not be accepted after the Company submits a list of all eligible voters in our class and craft as stated by the NMB rules. As you know by now the company submitted an inflated list. I do not know if the NMB is accepting this list and additional cards may or may not be allowed. It is quite possible that the number of cards submitted and accepted by the NMB is not finalized at this time. Be patient and things will work themselves out as always.

 

[Checking it Out]

Open and Honest does not go in the same sentence, when comparing Amfa! Censoring and lies is a more just use for comparision.

 

[Decision 2004]

Open and Honest does not go in the same sentence, when comparing Amfa! Censoring and lies is a more just use for comparision.

Are you talking about these lies you propagate?

AMFA caused the Bankruptcy at UAL.


The IAM protesting concessions at UAL.
CIO, where the AMFA supporters in this picture? I can't find them?



And that AMFA wanted to "plunge AA into Bankruptcy".

Delle's position of AA potential Bankruptcy

CIO, You are nothing more than a common everyday liar.

 

[Ken MacTiernan]

Open and Honest does not go in the same sentence, when comparing Amfa! Censoring and lies is a more just use for comparision.

cio, your dyslexia is kicking in again. It's the twu that can not be in the same sentence with the words open and honest. Unless of course it is when the twu says they do not believe in the meaning of these words.

By the way, how's that fishing trip going? Try using BP&J, you might catch something. LOL

GO AMFA!

 

[Bob Owens]

The confidentiality of the card signers is BS. I received a letter from AMFA that plainly stated that they send me that letter because I had NOT send them a card.

Now If all authorization cards were send directly to the NMB...I would believe the statement.

Why are the organizers so reluctant to post the totals? I thought with AMFA everything is out in the open?


You dissapoint me. Step back and look at what you wrote. You cant be that dumb. CIO could, but I didnt expect that from you.

You are saying that there is no confidentiality because the organization that was colecting the cards notified YOU that they did not get a card from You? How does that make this a breach of Confidentiality unless you were hiding this from your wife?

The confidentiality they are talking about is from the company or the incumbant union. Think about it, how could anyone file unless they knew who they had cards from?

As for the totals, why post them before the company and the union submit their number? Why give the opposition something to shoot for? It makes sense to withhold this information, in good time we will know the number. I'm an AMFA member and I can wait, you are not, you have no right to demand anything from AMFA, yet. When you become a member, you will have the right to ask for the number. 😀 😉