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and, again, instead of being able to deal with the issues that are on the table, you resort to name calling.
we can see where this is going now.
Do you expect that you can start one thread after another that does nothing but say how great AA is in the complete absence of any reality?
Delta is not the issue; the issue is the inability of some people to hear anything that is based in any kind of reality that is counter to the narrative you want.
If AA is really great, it will show - and it will stay that way. It hasn't happened on a sustained basis yet. And when it does, you can absolutely be sure there will be no way I can deny it.
we can see where this is going now.
Do you expect that you can start one thread after another that does nothing but say how great AA is in the complete absence of any reality?
Delta is not the issue; the issue is the inability of some people to hear anything that is based in any kind of reality that is counter to the narrative you want.
If AA is really great, it will show - and it will stay that way. It hasn't happened on a sustained basis yet. And when it does, you can absolutely be sure there will be no way I can deny it.
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WorldTraveler said:
Yet you make Delta the issue in every thread.
Is it true you were kicked off another airline web board?
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no, I did not.
I spoke about AA and its profitability and what it would take for them to move past the merger phase and into long-term financial stability.
DL does happen to be there because it went first in the megamergers but for all practical purposes so has WN.
I'm not sure why it is so hard for you or others to accept that when AA has spent the couple billion on their merger like everyone else has, then we can begin to compare them on the same basis.
Of course AA will show nice profits right now because they are enjoying a stronger pricing environment, due in large part to capacity cuts that other carriers did and the fact that US was targeting AA's markets with discounts more than any other carrier's markets.
AA and US THEMSELVES said that to the US government, not me.
It is also no surprise given that confession why AA/US have divested more assets than any other airline merger in history. So far, we have yet to see the effects of any of those divestitures on the industry's profitability - but given that the divested assets are being deployed in AA markets more than in any other carriers, it should be no surprise that AA will be most impacted.
I spoke about AA and its profitability and what it would take for them to move past the merger phase and into long-term financial stability.
DL does happen to be there because it went first in the megamergers but for all practical purposes so has WN.
I'm not sure why it is so hard for you or others to accept that when AA has spent the couple billion on their merger like everyone else has, then we can begin to compare them on the same basis.
Of course AA will show nice profits right now because they are enjoying a stronger pricing environment, due in large part to capacity cuts that other carriers did and the fact that US was targeting AA's markets with discounts more than any other carrier's markets.
AA and US THEMSELVES said that to the US government, not me.
It is also no surprise given that confession why AA/US have divested more assets than any other airline merger in history. So far, we have yet to see the effects of any of those divestitures on the industry's profitability - but given that the divested assets are being deployed in AA markets more than in any other carriers, it should be no surprise that AA will be most impacted.
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sorry to burst your bubbles there WT I do clearly understand the facts Its you that needs to "grasp" the fact you feel the need to interject NEGATIVE crap in every thread on all airlines except DL
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it's not negative, robbed. it is the way it is....good, bad, or indifferent.
if you want an "everything is roses" discussion, then start a forum of your own and admit only people who will say what you want to hear.
It isn't about DL. You can say that all you want. It is about REALITY.
AA is doing well... but it is NOT in the same position as DL or WN, both of whom have completed far more of their mergers, spent plenty of money and overcome plenty of obstacles, and are strong.
When AA is in the same position, I have absolutely no problem acknowledging when they have gotten there.
And I honestly DO expect they will get there, too.
if you want an "everything is roses" discussion, then start a forum of your own and admit only people who will say what you want to hear.
It isn't about DL. You can say that all you want. It is about REALITY.
AA is doing well... but it is NOT in the same position as DL or WN, both of whom have completed far more of their mergers, spent plenty of money and overcome plenty of obstacles, and are strong.
When AA is in the same position, I have absolutely no problem acknowledging when they have gotten there.
And I honestly DO expect they will get there, too.
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Glenn Quagmire
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...or any post where the last key point in it was a negative for Delta. You will not find it due to the Aspergers. He must have the last word, especially if anything negative about Delta was the last posted item. Look for yourself.
AA is going to have a banner 2015. Mark my words. I think they will lead the sector in all metrics (that count to investors and passengers most)...(my qualifier)
AA is going to have a banner 2015. Mark my words. I think they will lead the sector in all metrics (that count to investors and passengers most)...(my qualifier)
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do you have evidence regarding your accusation of aspergers? Of course not.
again, feel free to hide behind the notion that it is a DL vs everyone else thing. Why don't you say it is AA vs. WN? I have mentioned them repeatedly here as well.
my comments are merely noting where AA is relative to its peers and being in the place of long-term financial stability.
I fully expect that AA will do well... I have said as much.
but they haven't demonstrated that. There were a lot of people who had great expectations for UA-CO and it hasn't exactly worked out that way.
I don't expect AA will turn out like UA but until the chapter is actually written, there is no way of knowing.
When AA is at the same point as other carriers are at today, then we can make a fair and accurate comparison.
AA first hands to spend close to a couple billion to finish its merger and deal with lots of competitive, integration, and labor challenges.
again, feel free to hide behind the notion that it is a DL vs everyone else thing. Why don't you say it is AA vs. WN? I have mentioned them repeatedly here as well.
my comments are merely noting where AA is relative to its peers and being in the place of long-term financial stability.
I fully expect that AA will do well... I have said as much.
but they haven't demonstrated that. There were a lot of people who had great expectations for UA-CO and it hasn't exactly worked out that way.
I don't expect AA will turn out like UA but until the chapter is actually written, there is no way of knowing.
When AA is at the same point as other carriers are at today, then we can make a fair and accurate comparison.
AA first hands to spend close to a couple billion to finish its merger and deal with lots of competitive, integration, and labor challenges.
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Sorry, don't have access to your psychological profile to prove it. But, here are a few of the trait's I've noticed in both my nephew, who's diagnosed, and you, WT...
- Repetitive routines or rituals
- Can engage in tasks (sometimes mudane ones) for hours and hours
- Eccentric personality
- Idiosyncratic attachment to inanimate objects (in my nephew's case, his employer....)
- Being "in their own world" / Preoccupied with their own agenda
- Highly gifted in one or more areas, e.g. math, music, etc
- Single-mindedness
- Likes and dislikes can be very rigid
- Can spend hours in the library researching, loves learning and information
- Limited interests / Intense focus on one or two subjects
- Unusual preoccupations
- Word repetition (they may frequently repeat what you've just said)
- Excellent rote memory
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Precisely...eolesen said:
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WorldTraveler
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and, again, you demonstrate that what you CAN'T do is discuss the issues that are being focused on, choosing instead to focus on ME as a person.
We've been doing this for years now so I have you pegged. And part of that peg involves your insatiable desire to try to knock off anyone that has challenged your knowledge of the subject, despite the fact that you repeatedly talk about subjects about which you aren't trained.
I don't try to talk IT, E. I'm not sure why you can't accept that there are other people in the world who actually do know network and financial aspects of the industry.
I also don't try to diagnose people. I'm not a doctor or mental health specialist trained to do so.
the fact that you have once again tried to stick your nose into a subject about which you aren't trained and have no experience other than a nephew highlights once again your need to play expert about much that is way beyond your training and experience.
I also don't really care about your decade long feeble attempts at tarnishing my reputation which you have tried in no shortage of ways to do.
Your modus operandi hasn't changed: as soon as it becomes apparent that you can't keep up with the topic, trash the opponent and do all you can to coordinate the pile on.
If I wanted to play psychologist, it wouldn't take me too long to come to some conclusions about your childhood.
I pity your nephew, E. I really do but whatever he has doesn't change that AA is in exactly the situation that I have described and there is nothing you can do to argue otherwise.
you and others go to no end to try and avoid admitting that I have been dead on accurate.
Meanwhile, when AA demonstrates that it has accomplished what other airlines have done, then I'll give them the credit they are do.
AA isn't there yet.
And there is no amount of effort on your part that will change that.
We've been doing this for years now so I have you pegged. And part of that peg involves your insatiable desire to try to knock off anyone that has challenged your knowledge of the subject, despite the fact that you repeatedly talk about subjects about which you aren't trained.
I don't try to talk IT, E. I'm not sure why you can't accept that there are other people in the world who actually do know network and financial aspects of the industry.
I also don't try to diagnose people. I'm not a doctor or mental health specialist trained to do so.
the fact that you have once again tried to stick your nose into a subject about which you aren't trained and have no experience other than a nephew highlights once again your need to play expert about much that is way beyond your training and experience.
I also don't really care about your decade long feeble attempts at tarnishing my reputation which you have tried in no shortage of ways to do.
Your modus operandi hasn't changed: as soon as it becomes apparent that you can't keep up with the topic, trash the opponent and do all you can to coordinate the pile on.
If I wanted to play psychologist, it wouldn't take me too long to come to some conclusions about your childhood.
I pity your nephew, E. I really do but whatever he has doesn't change that AA is in exactly the situation that I have described and there is nothing you can do to argue otherwise.
you and others go to no end to try and avoid admitting that I have been dead on accurate.
Meanwhile, when AA demonstrates that it has accomplished what other airlines have done, then I'll give them the credit they are do.
AA isn't there yet.
And there is no amount of effort on your part that will change that.
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Gives a new meaning to "would argue with a fence post".
Need to bring back the OFF TOPIC ALERT police gif.
Looks like yet another topic good for the locking. What is that 4 or 5 this week?
Need to bring back the OFF TOPIC ALERT police gif.
Looks like yet another topic good for the locking. What is that 4 or 5 this week?
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