American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[WeAAsles]

Yep they could go on 10 more years if need be,that is what our ferret friend doesnt seem to grasp

I did a decade already with no raises. I think I could do another one if I had to.

 

[WeAAsles]

I did a decade already with no raises. I think I could do another one if I had to.

Hey Al here’s a serious kicker for you. Just after I posted this I got a call from my close personal friend back in Texas. His Sister has Rheumatoid Arthritis. Insurance company didn’t want to authorize an operation before trying one last thing. An injection into her spine.

She’s now paralyzed from the waste down for life.

Kinda puts all of this Contract Negotiating garbage into perspective sometimes.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Hey Al here’s a serious kicker for you. Just after I posted this I got a call from my close personal friend back in Texas. His Sister has Rheumatoid Arthritis. Insurance company didn’t want to authorize an operation before trying one last thing. An injection into her spine.

She’s now paralyzed from the waste down for life.

Kinda puts all of this Contract Negotiating garbage into perspective sometimes.

Our insurance is the same thing. Unfortunaely, we have case managers who refuse certain treatments and test.

 

[Tim Nelson]

I did a decade already with no raises. I think I could do another one if I had to.

The problem is that the economy isn't always going to give us the current leverage that allows the company to keep the present offer on the table. And with United locked in until 2024, the company doesn't have to worry about United increasing its contract worth. We are losing money as we burn daylight. The next offer may be serious pay cuts. But at least Im in PBI for a couple years to take care of matters. Then off to MIA/DFW or maybe back to ORD.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Yep they could go on 10 more years if need be,that is what our ferret friend doesnt seem to grasp

Weez is a IAM guy. Most TWU guys on the floor find this association ridiculous and want to vote.

 

[WeAAsles]

Our insurance is the same thing. Unfortunaely, we have case managers who refuse certain treatments and test.

Yea I know Tim. But this happening to my buddy’s Sister hits a little too close to home for me today.

Sorry man not too in the mood for our usual back and forth right now.

 

[GVPSPIAM]

That's about right. We will continue to say these things until he gets reelected. Obviously, the company isn't going to budge on GSE and other MX areas. And the company really doesn't mind keeping things right where they are unless they can nab those crafts. I think it sucks but I also think people should vote on the matter.

Since you hate unions, why don’t you go into management already?

 

[AANOTOK]

Yea I know Tim. But this happening to my buddy’s Sister hits a little too close to home for me today.

Sorry man not too in the mood for our usual back and forth right now.

Yet he can head over to other forums and continue to throw up his childish video's

 

[WeAAsles]

WASHINGTON, D.C. (Feb. 8, 2019) — Four unions representing a total of 73,000 workers at American Airlines voiced their support for H.R. 1108, the “Aviation Funding Stability Act of 2019,” sponsored by Transportation and Infrastructure Committee Chairman Peter DeFazio (D-Ore.) and Chairman of the Aviation Subcommittee Rick Larsen (D-WA). This bill would give the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) the authority to access the Airport and Aviation Trust Fund (AATF) to continue operations during a federal government shutdown.

The Transport Workers Union (TWU), the Allied Pilots Association (APA), the Association of Professional Flight Attendants (APFA), and the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers (IAM) emphasized that this legislation would ensure that the important safety work FAA professionals perform would continue uninterrupted during any future federal government shutdown. AATF collects money from a variety of user fees on airline tickets, foreign-carrier flights into the U.S., and fuel purchases. The fund had a balance of $6.5 billion in uncommitted money, which could be tapped as an emergency fund to pay salaries and operational expenses.

“On behalf of all the airline and federal employees we represent, we applaud Chairman DeFazio and Representative Larsen for introducing the Aviation Funding Stability Act of 2019,” said IAM General Vice President Sito Pantoja. “This bill would provide assurances that workers’ paychecks won’t be sacrificed for a political agenda and that the FAA will be able to properly manage the safety of our aviation industry.”

“In the event of another government shutdown, every FAA employee must remain on the job with pay. Our aviation system was brought perilously close to collapse. America’s air travelers were endangered and that situation cannot be repeated,” said TWU International President John Samuelsen.

“Safety and security are the foundation of what we do,” said APA President Capt. Daniel F. Carey, APA President. “Whether I’m in the cockpit with members of my union or in the cabin with members of my family, I expect to be assured that the all the stakeholders of the world’s safest aviation system are on the field and undistracted. This legislation fully addresses the critical role that FAA professionals play in that success.”

“This bill needs to be passed promptly. It is the common-sense solution to maintaining our country’s critical aviation security layers and would prevent putting our flight attendants and the flying public at risk during another ill-considered shutdown,” said APFA National President Lori Bassani.

The International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers (IAM) represents more than 100,000 airline members in North America.

The TWU represents more than 140,000 members across the airline; railroad; transit, universities, utilities, and services; and gaming sectors.

Founded in 1963, the Allied Pilots Association — the largest independent pilots union in the United States — is headquartered in Fort Worth, Texas. APA represents the 15,000 pilots of American Airlines, including several hundred pilots on full-time military leave of absence serving in the armed forces.

APFA is the largest independent flight attendant union proudly representing the 27,000 flight attendants at American Airlines.

American Airlines is the world’s largest passenger carrier.

 

[AANOTOK]

Since you hate unions, why don’t you go into management already?

Hey, why don't you tell John John you were wrong and he was right instead of telling one of your little soldiers you stand corrected...you really are a condescending joke!

 

[WeAAsles]

Yet he can head over to other forums and continue to throw up his childish video's

You’re a real POS. BTW the guy I’m talking about works on the Ramp there with you.

 

[WeAAsles]

Hey, why don't you tell John John you were wrong and he was right instead of telling one of your little soldiers you stand corrected...you really are a condescending joke!

And you’re complete Garbage man.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Since you hate unions, why don’t you go into management already?

I hate company unions like the IAM. Most of the AFLCIO is a corporate sellout. I'm fairly excited about creating competition for those unions. After a few victories, it could blossom to over 100,000 in no time because you guys just suck.

 

[Tim Nelson]

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WASHINGTON, D.C. (Feb. 8, 2019) — Four unions representing a total of 73,000 workers at American Airlines voiced their support for H.R. 1108, the “Aviation Funding Stability Act of 2019,” sponsored by Transportation and Infrastructure Committee Chairman Peter DeFazio (D-Ore.) and Chairman of the Aviation Subcommittee Rick Larsen (D-WA). This bill would give the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) the authority to access the Airport and Aviation Trust Fund (AATF) to continue operations during a federal government shutdown.

The Transport Workers Union (TWU), the Allied Pilots Association (APA), the Association of Professional Flight Attendants (APFA), and the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers (IAM) emphasized that this legislation would ensure that the important safety work FAA professionals perform would continue uninterrupted during any future federal government shutdown. AATF collects money from a variety of user fees on airline tickets, foreign-carrier flights into the U.S., and fuel purchases. The fund had a balance of $6.5 billion in uncommitted money, which could be tapped as an emergency fund to pay salaries and operational expenses.

“On behalf of all the airline and federal employees we represent, we applaud Chairman DeFazio and Representative Larsen for introducing the Aviation Funding Stability Act of 2019,” said IAM General Vice President Sito Pantoja. “This bill would provide assurances that workers’ paychecks won’t be sacrificed for a political agenda and that the FAA will be able to properly manage the safety of our aviation industry.”

“In the event of another government shutdown, every FAA employee must remain on the job with pay. Our aviation system was brought perilously close to collapse. America’s air travelers were endangered and that situation cannot be repeated,” said TWU International President John Samuelsen.

“Safety and security are the foundation of what we do,” said APA President Capt. Daniel F. Carey, APA President. “Whether I’m in the cockpit with members of my union or in the cabin with members of my family, I expect to be assured that the all the stakeholders of the world’s safest aviation system are on the field and undistracted. This legislation fully addresses the critical role that FAA professionals play in that success.”

“This bill needs to be passed promptly. It is the common-sense solution to maintaining our country’s critical aviation security layers and would prevent putting our flight attendants and the flying public at risk during another ill-considered shutdown,” said APFA National President Lori Bassani.

The International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers (IAM) represents more than 100,000 airline members in North America.

The TWU represents more than 140,000 members across the airline; railroad; transit, universities, utilities, and services; and gaming sectors.

Founded in 1963, the Allied Pilots Association — the largest independent pilots union in the United States — is headquartered in Fort Worth, Texas. APA represents the 15,000 pilots of American Airlines, including several hundred pilots on full-time military leave of absence serving in the armed forces.

APFA is the largest independent flight attendant union proudly representing the 27,000 flight attendants at American Airlines.

American Airlines is the world’s largest passenger carrier.

I often wonder why the MX don't have their own union and why they waste their time with a company union like the TWU?

 

[WeAAsles]

I hate company unions like the IAM. Most of the AFLCIO is a corporate sellout. I'm fairly excited about creating competition for those unions. After a few victories, it could blossom to over 100,000 in no time because you guys just suck.

I often wonder why the MX don't have their own union and why they waste their time with a company union like the TWU?

You really are Mentally ill aren’t you? I’m not joking. You “can’t” stop.