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Kev3188 said:
Correct, and thanks for making my point for me.

Nothing is guaranteed, and if the economy fully implodes, retirement planning will be the last thing to worry about.
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If my point is your point then you obviously have extreme difficulties getting your point across.

If the Yellowstone Supervolcano erupts, if the Sun emits a super charged particle Solar flare directly at the Earth, if there happens to be a 5 mile wide asteroid headed right for us behind the Sun, if some Nation or rouge Terrorist group pushes the Red button cause they want to see Mushroom clouds.

“If” (So what)
 
WeAAsles said:
If my point is your point then you obviously have extreme difficulties getting your point across.

If the Yellowstone Supervolcano erupts, if the Sun emits a super charged particle Solar flare directly at the Earth, if there happens to be a 5 mile wide asteroid headed right for us behind the Sun, if some Nation or rouge Terrorist group pushes the Red button cause they want to see Mushroom clouds.

“If” (So what)
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Dave, you can’t be nonchalant in one post and fear monger in the next.

And again, your flair for the dramatic aside, you’re correct; there are things we can/can not control. If the entire US economy collapses (and I mean actually collapses), then retirement discussions will be moot.

In the meantime, the discussion SHOULD be about how labor can best prepare for retirement, and how best to navigate that in this new era. You and I might be “30 and out” guys, but I guarantee you a bunch of cats behind us are not. They may stay for a bit, or switch jobs, or whatever. A DB plan does them zero. And in the meantime, the company gets to hold those plans over everyone and watch us squirm.

Let’s change that.
 
I didn't think anyone could be dumber than weez, 700, or prez but gvp you win.
Are you for real?

Even the media and authors use sources. You do know what source or a what a citation are?

You are really low information and misinformation poster.

guy shows up espousing the iampf and makes his argument using a 61 percent funded laa... board except for Nelson and Buck is full of amateurs.

due diligence
 
I’ve said nothing touting the IAMNPF, I simply answered Buck’s question about what happens to it.
 
Kev3188 said:
Dave, you can’t be nonchalant in one post and fear monger in the next.

And again, your flair for the dramatic aside, you’re correct; there are things we can/can not control. If the entire US economy collapses (and I mean actually collapses), then retirement discussions will be moot.

In the meantime, the discussion SHOULD be about how labor can best prepare for retirement, and how best to navigate that in this new era. You and I might be “30 and out” guys, but I guarantee you a bunch of cats behind us are not. They may stay for a bit, or switch jobs, or whatever. A DB plan does them zero. And in the meantime, the company gets to hold those plans over everyone and watch us squirm.

Let’s change that.
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Not interested.
 
Tim/Kev... not interested in obfuscated, abstract, and biased opinions that are all obviously an integral part of a gaslighting campaign...
We're keeping the IAMNPF...

GO IAM!
 
WeAAsles said:
Actually it’s AAG who’s now responsible for those past Pension obligations. AAG stands for the “American Airlines Group” AMR and LLC are both defunct.

And since the Industry has finished consolidating I also have a better feeling that AAG can meet those requirements in the future? But like all things nothing is absolute and people should plan as best they can ahead for all contingencies.

I have to assume living in your parents house and now owning it yourself has given you a nice wad of finances to count on in your old age that the IAMNPF is not exactly the major source of income your counting on to carry you through.

I suspect your house is likely worth anywhere between 5 to $800,000 so even after Capital gains Taxes have been accounted for you’ll still have a nice little nest egg left with that investment (Thank you Mom and Dad)
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I told you before id rather the pension fund tell me i can't collect till 65 then tell me at 80(God willing) my.pension will.be halved.And yes i should be alright just got to leave long island the taxes are crazy.For your imfo 3 of my sources the iam.the terminated plan now with the PBG.and social security are all.in a precarious situation
 
you know al, you have to stop thinking for yourself here, and start listening to the guys vacationing in fll getting you a contract, making 200k a year. go iam.
 
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