American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[Kev3188]

Because it’s a clear cut reason why they unionized and it was relevant to his post.

Relevant how?

If you can tie ‘92 to today, I’d love to read it. You’re not just fear mongering are you?

 

[Phoenix757767]

Relevant how?

If you can tie ‘92 to today, I’d love to read it. You’re not just fear mongering are you?

Nope. Ask them what happened.

 

[Kev3188]

I'm asking you.

 

[Phoenix757767]

They were non-union, lost their vacation, sick time, OJI time, 40% were downgraded to part-time, lost mail, freight and Express work. Many were laid off and pensions were frozen.

Didn’t happen to the unionized workforce. Their concessions were negotiated and voted on.

 

[Kev3188]

Most of which also happened to union members in recent years.

Now tell me why people shouldn't be demanding results from the current negotiating team.

Or is your premise that the rank and file should just suck it up because "it could be worse."

 

[V.O. Reason]

As one who began as non union then joined after the US Piedmont merger I can tell you I’ve seen very little benefits from the union.
Most of what I’ve seen is very slow in negotiating contracts which in my opinion cost me money.
I’m forced into a pension when I had a 401 match and my pay rates and seniority isn’t my hire date so I’m disadvantaged there as well.
So tell me why I should be thankful for the union.
Sorry haven’t seen much benefit

 

[ALUS78]

I dont see anyone coming to rescue us no june 6.The union stance against AA is tantamount to Irans stance against US now they might briefly disrupt oil flow but in the end they will likely be bombed into the stone age

 

[ALUS78]

Go ask a LUS fleet service person about what happened to them in 1992 when they were non-union.
And there is a reason why the airlines are one of the most highly unionized industries.

Dude i lost more with the union on site,and you were a big part of that

 

[Phoenix757767]

Dude i lost more with the union on site,and you were a big part of that

You actually didn’t. And guess you forgot about two bankruptcy filings.

 

[ALUS78]

You actually didn’t. And guess you forgot about two bankruptcy filings.

Ive moved on so should you, am i likely better off with a union than not yes....unless im Delta or Jetblue.Im also aware of who writes my checks

 

[ALUS78]

Now im hearing Dl+1% and i dont like it unless they change the PS.Id still like a higher hourly this company has too many employees to divide the pot

 

[NYer]

Now im hearing Dl+1% and i dont like it unless they change the PS.Id still like a higher hourly this company has too many employees to divide the pot

Where did you get Delta +1?

Which by the way is still 6% more than where we are now.

 

[ALUS78]

Where did you get Delta +1?

Which by the way is still 6% more than where we are now.

I heard that was the proposal .Heard it from a low level union guy so.....

 

[Kev3188]

Dude i lost more with the union on site,and you were a big part of that

Remember the guy that was always on here claiming to have been on an NC? Turns out he unwittingly farmed out his own class/craft. Good times.

 

[swamt]

in the meantime...the numbers are bad and the delays & cancellations pile up.

i'm hoping for the good of all, we have a TA by the end of the week.

Me too. Just not gonna expect any T/A. I would still find it hard to get to a T/A even after this second week. But, if that is the case I would be nervous about just how much (bad) movement was made, but we will see if T/A comes.