Bull Shite Tim. The Judge will not call for an order to stop. There is NOT any evidence of any kind of work slow down as long as all the write-ups are legit safety write ups. Just as in our case, this will get slammed downed AA's throat as it needs to be. Find one MF JUdge that will tell any airline mechanic to stop writing up legit safety concerns. AA is playing a move to try and stop the and intimidate the mechanics from write ups and groundings of a/c. The mechanics just need to continue to do their jobs and keep an excellent product safe for the flying public. In other words, "just do your damn jobs." Enough said (I hope)
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Bull Shite Tim. The Judge will not call for an order to stop. There is NOT any evidence of any kind of work slow down as long as all the write-ups are legit safety write ups. Just as in our case, this will get slammed downed AA's throat as it needs to be. Find one MF JUdge that will tell any airline mechanic to stop writing up legit safety concerns. AA is playing a move to try and stop the and intimidate the mechanics from write ups and groundings of a/c. The mechanics just need to continue to do their jobs and keep an excellent product safe for the flying public. In other words, "just do your damn jobs." Enough said (I hope)
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I said the same thing where is the counter suit. Imho I feel the association will use this to say well we tried but failed and blame the suit and judge. And try to save face. Why else would Samuelson get up in a company meeting scream to bring the airline down captured on camera and release it on line. I think in the past union didn’t share with the company what they were going to do. It just seems like a setup to me. Your right about the judge in the pilots suit the judge spoke and put a cease and desist order and then posed a big fine
Negotiations 101 brother. No brainer. AA is just hoping no one will catch on. This pathetic asso. representing you guys is just worthless. How long has it been from AA filing the suit and the asoo. hasn't done a freaking thing??? Pretty sad. Makes AA look like they are correct.
Work safe brother. Keep writing up legit write ups. Nothing anyone can do to you guys. Work that A&P to the bone...
Tim Nelson
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It has nothing at all to do with mechanics doing their jobs. The suit's primary basis is 'a concerted effort to refuse overtime'. It is valid and has merit.
Unlike at WN, I don't think the AMFA union leaders were doing videos and posting on social media to ban all overtime. That said, I'm not sure what happened with the Judge at WN, I thought it never got to the judge?
At any rate, the Texas Judge will issue an injunction to protect the public from concerted activities. He will also instruct the union to put out a letter. This is more similar to APA at American and their overtime ban, than MX at WN.
Tim Nelson
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The mechanics support the Association though. So, as pathetic as it is, this is what will be.
You know mechs can’t stand things to stay the same much like they hate change. I would rather complain while having a good contract and a union that I voted for.
Find the Baskett-case's a$$ and he'll be in close proximity
I disagree.
I know I hate our current situation, I have yet to hear, I love this association it’s doing great things for us mechanics.
MetalMover
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Well for starters if they had a counter suit, it would be highlighted by the big mouth's bloodshed threat.
Wow. You really are clueless. I bet all others understood my post.
Here allow me to help. Some good praises going around for well deserved job performances within AMFA at two carriers. Note the para highlighted for you near the end.
Again, Tim, where is the countersuit???
- NATIONAL DIRECTOR'S MAY 2019 UPDATE
Updated On: Jun 11, 2019
June 10, 2019
Dear Members:
We ended the month of May celebrating Memorial Day. I hope we all can remember those who gave their lives, never forget their sacrifices, tell their stories, celebrate their legacies, and honor the fallen. God bless our loved ones.
I would like to acknowledge the tremendous effort and dedication our Legislative Affairs Director, Justin Madden and our lobbying firm, Commonwealth Strategic Partners has put forth to encourage the White House to recognize the importance of Aircraft Maintenance Technicians (AMTs) in this aviation industry and continuing to elevate our craft. I was impressed and encouraged that so many groups supported our joint efforts, and I offer my sincere thanks to Senator Duckworth and Congressman Larsen for their work to acknowledge the AMT on our special day – Aviation Maintenance Technicians Day, May 24. Additionally, I extend a special thanks to the Aerospace Maintenance Council and Ken MacTiernan, who we worked with closely to accomplish this letter. Impressively, our hard work paid off, and we were recognized by the President of the United States in the “Presidential Message on Aviation Maintenance Technician Day.”
May was extremely busy for both the AMFA and Alaska Negotiating Committees in trying to reach a Transition Agreement to bring the Legacy Virgin American (Airbus) Aircraft Maintenance Technicians under the AMFA CBA as well as an Integrated Seniority List. After the release of Update #8 on April 30, 2019, our membership was very vocal about their wishes; therefore, we continued talks the following week. We presented the Company with a proposal on May 10, 2019, and asked for definition purposes, “all-in” be defined as including base pay, license premiums, line premium, and top scale longevity.
The parties met again on May 14, 2019, and Alaska provided information that was requested by AMFA related to the terms of the other agreements on the property as well as other AMT groups in the industry. Neither side presented additional proposals, but scheduled another session for the following week for.
The parties met again on May 21, 2019, and May 30, 2019, which included open discussions on a deal that would pass if voted on, legal timelines if vote failed, and the process and timeline to go to arbitration. The ALRs conducted several station visits and received face-to-face feedback from the membership of the line and hangars regarding the supposal and fine tuning it to reach an Agreement in Principal (AIP). Hoping to reach a Transition Agreement and Seniority Integration to vote on, the following meeting was scheduled for June 3, 2019. Please monitor the Alaska Airlines News and Updates page of the AMFA National website for further details.
We are proud to report that our members’ voices were heard loud and clear on May 21, 2019, when the AMFA-Southwest Airlines membership voted to ratify a collective bargaining agreement with a participation rate of 93.62% and approval of 94.62%. Congratulations AMFA-SWA AMTs. I want to express my undaunted appreciation to the AMFA-SWA membership for their support, dedication, and unity in getting this deserved and justifiable contract. I am extremely honored to represent all of you.
We cannot forget this was a long 6+ year endeavor, and we must give great appreciation to former AMFA-SWA Airline Representatives and Officers as their commitment and dedication played important roles in paving the road of negotiations: Jack Coonrod, Nino DiMaggio, Matt Townsend, Shane Flachman, Mike Nelson, Mike Young, and Bob Cramer. These leaders fought this fight and contributed at various stages of negotiations.
A continued thanks and appreciation goes out to our Negotiating Committee; Local Officers and Representatives; Seham Legal Counsel; AMFA Economist; National Officers; National Administrative Team; public relations firms of Mayes Media, Kenefick Communications, and Commerce House – all who unconditionally supported our AMFA- SWA members in getting a well-deserved industry leading contract. Tremendous job and well done by all!
I would like to share some highlights of a recent article by Bloomberg Law Article - Bloomberg law legal analyst, Robert Combs:
“[AMFA-SWA Contract] with its mechanics union is single handedly responsible for a boost the average union wage across the country.”
“One analyst says it’s the largest average bonus he’s ever seen.”
“But that’s what happens when a company's employees work 7 years without a ratified contract in place. Those missed annual raises just don’t evaporate they accumulate.”
Going forward I am optimistic about a viable and professional working relationship with management at Southwest Airlines. We still have problems that need to be acknowledged and addressed by both sides. This continues to be a challenging time for Southwest – and the aviation industry as a whole – specifically with the two recent fatal crashes with the Boeing 737MAX aircraft, grounding of the entire MAX fleet, Leap 1B Engine revisions, recent leading edge slat track AD, MCAS revisions, other country’s federal regulators participation of approval of MAX re-introduction, flying public and media opposition to 737 MAX, public opinion of Boeing and FAA oversight, Office of Inspector General (OIG) audit-findings, public hearing and findings of investigation of Flight 1380, and on-time scheduling issues. With hard work, respect, and professionalism we can conquer these challenges together.
The NEC continues our efforts to achieve the best communication practices to reach our membership. Tools are in place for our members to acquire latest news and updates regarding current events throughout the Association via the National website, AMFA App, and social media. The NEC also continues to conduct station and GMM visits throughout the system. Thank you for your continued support in this communication campaign.
Reminder: the FAA Hotline reporting system may be utilized to report concerns of aviation safety: https://hotline.faa.gov/. We must realize our grave responsibility as FAA certified airman to exercise our judgement on the airworthiness of aircraft and equipment. We, therefore, pledge unyielding adherence to these precepts for the advancement of public safety of aviation and for the dignity for our craft.
As always, I ask you please be safe and to stay engaged with your union and officers. For more carrier specific updates and further information regarding AMFA and the airline industry, please visit the AMFA National Website at www.amfanational.org. Our most determined efforts will only succeed with your continued support and participation – please stay informed.
Sincerely,
Bret Oestreich
National Director
Kev3188
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I think you guys are just talking past each other?
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Today's Jetwire...
New filing asks judge for order halting TWU-IAM slowdown
You may hear that the company filed a motion for a temporary restraining order today seeking immediate relief from the slow down affecting the maintenance operation. Today’s motion may lead to a faster track for resolution so we can get the operation running efficiently as soon as possible. We remain committed to delivering an industry-leading agreement for Tech Ops and Fleet Service team members once the mediator schedules new negotiating dates.
New filing asks judge for order halting TWU-IAM slowdown
You may hear that the company filed a motion for a temporary restraining order today seeking immediate relief from the slow down affecting the maintenance operation. Today’s motion may lead to a faster track for resolution so we can get the operation running efficiently as soon as possible. We remain committed to delivering an industry-leading agreement for Tech Ops and Fleet Service team members once the mediator schedules new negotiating dates.
V.O. Reason
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Expect another tirade from the union idiots on this, continuing a longer wait on getting a deal done anytime in the near future.
Count on it
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