Alpa Responds To Pit Tribune-review

Not to change the rant, but I just finished sending the following letter to Mr. Steigerwald. I suggest everybody send him a reply of their own.

Dear Mr. Steigerwald,

I cannot even begin to tell you how much I enjoyed your article on how great it is to work for a union, at US Airways. I mean really, there is nothing more enjoyable then kicking back with a good news story on how wonderful my life is! Of course, I should clarify before going any further that I am only a lowly mechanic, and not a pilot. However, much of your ranting, I mean expounding, covers me as well. I might also mention that I no longer live in PA, although I did for four and one half years, while I could not make those buckets of easy money you dream of your wife making, in the state I really wanted to live in. (Nor do I today, 10 years later)

I will admit though, those flight benefits came in handy back then, as my wife had this silly notion that our kids should grow up knowing their grandparents, so she flew home often. Oh, what great adventures those were... Packing up two small children, one in a car seat, one in a stroller, then trouping off to that most wonderful of places, the airport! Once there she had the easiest of commutes, never caring about things like luggage, security, diaper bags, snacks, bottles, looks to kill from other passengers during crying fits, it was all good! Being outsourced from your hometown is routine with the airlines, but it's well worth it for us airline/union guys! Then, the best of the best, free flights to exotic ports of call! Get to the airport, check in, and WAIT!!!!! Wait to see if you are called for that free seat! Wait to see if your dream vacation comes true, or if you turn around, and go home! And, if you get that free flight, it's not like you have worry about the cost of a rental car, hotel, food, attractions, etc., etc., etc! Hey, you're flying free right, who cares about the small stuff? One high point today, (although you personally may want to take this into consideration, before hiring your wife out) we no longer have to worry about any of this. Today, the flights we would really like to go on, are oversold to the point of keeping us from even trying. Oh wait, that was the dream part! Sorry, free flight benefits today are pretty much worthless.

By the way, I think I should also take a moment to apologize for wanting to make a decent living. Thanks to you, I now realize that I have been keeping millions of good, God fearing people, from being able to fly for next to nothing. What was I thinking, it should be cheaper to fly someplace, rather than drive, or take the bus/train! I mean really, you pull up to a toll booth, one person. Take a bus, one driver. Take a train, one engineer, one conductor. Take a plane, more like ten people working on that one flight! (gate agents, pilots, flight attendants, ramp, cleaners, mechanics...) Why should a passenger be expected to pay for all that extra service? Load your own bags, save 10 bucks, what do you think? Oh wait, you haven't gone through finger printing, background checks, or are investigated without good cause, sorry, you can't! Whatever. Still, it's not like I'm a plumber, who for 75 bucks or so will come in and tweak a pipe in 10 minutes, leaving you with a mess, and sometimes an even bigger leak than you started with. Or maybe an electrician? Want a new breaker box? Hey, it's worth a few hundred to keep some moron from being electrocuted while switching a few wires around, right? And of course everybody's favorite, their auto mechanic. I wouldn't for a minute try and compare myself to such a technological marvel, as today's grease monkey! He works 9 to 5 in a temperature controlled garage, while I work midnights outside, in New England's year round finest. He now makes more per hour than I do, but if his repair doesn't solve the problem the first time, he charges you to look at it again. Your plane breaks down, you might die! Then again, if you don't, it's just a delay right? (All the better, another article!) Your auto mechanic, he doesn't need any formal training. I wasted two years of schooling just so that I could qualify to take a federal exam. Drug testing... His position might be, "how good is your stuff?" Mine, random! Fail, you're out the door! By all means, he deserves his fair wage. Me, I'm just some loser trying to rape the flying public!

Again, I can't thank you enough for pointing out my evil ways, God bless you!

Sincerely,

(Name deleted)

PS: By the way, is your wife anything to look at? If so, it is too bad that she didn't get that job. Nothing like a married flight attendant on the road, they love to take memories home with them! I won't even bother going into the fact that this business is 75% men once you get beyond the front counter, or mention first class passengers, that's certainly not a worry for a cocksure desk jockey such as yourself, right?
 
PineyBob said:
To me $100,000 for a lead mechanic on a A330 seems about right. Unfortunately I am a committee of one apparently.
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Unless it would lower your ticket price by them taking a cut.

By the way nice letter Imamec,itsmyfault
 
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Magsau:

Your misrepresentation about 1985 hiring is interesting. "570 pilots" like myself are highly respected and were a key, if not the key reason, Dick Ferris did not break the union.

Vaughn Cordle was a B727 Fleet Qualified pilot who crossed the picket line and went to work at United. He is not an ALPA member, versus 568 of the 570 pilots like myself, who supported UAL ALPA and are union members in good standing.

As indicated on the ALPA code-a-phone, last week, MEC Chairman Bill Pollock sent the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review a letter to the editor that challenged the newspaper's practice of using a United pilot and analyst (Vaughn Cordle) as a source for negative stories and unsubstantiated claims about US Airways' future and ALPA. Captain Pollock's letter pointed out that the Trib had failed to disclose in several previous articles that this source was an active pilot for a competitor of US Airways. Captain Pollock also noted that this pilot crossed the United pilots' picket line during their 1985 strike, but he has still benefited from everything that the United pilots attained following the strike's resolution.

Magsau, I'm surprised, then again maybe I'm not, that you do not understand what truly happened at your company and union in 1985, when people like myself helped save your union.

Best regards,

USA320Pilot

P.S. I now understand that your company is "in play" and you might be surprised at the result.
 
USA320Pilot said:
Your misrepresentation about 1985 hiring is interesting. "570 pilots" like myself are highly respected
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Your misrepresentation about you being highly respected was a great joke and gave me a good laugh. Almost as good as Imamec,itsmyfault letter. Keep it up.
 
The 570 were hired to be scabs:

The centerpiece of Ferris' strategy: United's management team recruited and trained 570 new pilots, who were to keep the airline running if union pilots walked out.

The union set out to defuse management's weapon, spending $10 million on an elaborate campaign against Ferris.

United pilot and union activist Jamie Lindsay led a team working to persuade the 570 pilot recruits to honor picket lines and not fly. The union rented hotel rooms near where they were quartered, fed them pizza and beer and proselytized the union's cause.

While Lindsay employed the carrot to discourage strike-breaking, Dubinsky hauled out the stick. He warned the recruits and others who might cross picket lines that the union had excellent surveillance: "We're going to know every airplane that moves, know everybody who sits in that airplane at the front end," Dubinsky said at a teleconference 12 days before the strike.

On May 17, the first day of the walkout, fewer than a dozen of the 570 crossed picket lines to fly United planes. Some pilots who did fly for United during the strike wore Groucho Marx masks to foil union surveillance.
 
USA320Pilot said:
P.S. I now understand that your company is "in play" and you might be surprised at the result.
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This coming from someone whose company got financing from one of United's feeder airlines.
 
USA320Pilot said:
Magsau:

Your misrepresentation about 1985 hiring is interesting. "570 pilots" like myself are highly respected and were a key, if not the key reason, Dick Ferris did not break the union.


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First of all, you are not a 570. You were a 570. Please don't insult the rest of us by claiming to be part of any group at United Airlines.

Secondly, it is a well known fact that the 570 group were hired with the intention of being strike breakers. All of you were psychoanalyzed to fit a certain profile. As magsau said, the company zipped their fly before the 570's had a chance to pleasure them.

ALPA also made an effort to educate the 570's. I'm not saying that all the 570's would have crossed, but they were certainly profiled to do so. If the strike dragged out, it's hard to say how many 570's would have crossed. The bottom line is that they didn't. Some hold them in high regard because of this. Other's say it was just a matter of time. Everyone can make their own assessment. But judging by your personality I think I know what the outcome of that pole would be.

I know and have flown with many 570's. I will back magsau up and say that while some are outstanding individuals who knew the company's intentions and just told them what they wanted to hear, many are very self serving, self important, self centered individuals.
 
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767jetz:

I was there and witnessed the 570 event. Where you?

Your characterization is wrong, but I would not expect anything else from a person like you. During the strike, the 570 was asked by the company to go to work. 4 crossed the picket line and 566 of us did not.

2 later came back and 2 continued to work.

What's interesting is that UAL ALPA told us they would not go back to work unless we would be offered our jobs, after being terminated, however, after 6 weeks of no pay UAL ALPA turned their back on us and settled the labor dispute. It took us almost one-year to get our jobs back and then many years of litigation for us to get our rightful seniority returned, however, I was long gone, after I resigned from the company for a better opportunity.

Regards,

USA320Pilot
 
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767jetz:

........but I would not expect anything else from a person like you.

I didn't know you knew 767jetz! He's really a great person, isn't he? :up: He is the best -- what a kind, honest, helpful, thoughtful and upstanding guy he is. If I had a brother, I would want him to be just like 767jetz. :)
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Self-righteous indignation is amusing coming from someone that knew then and knows now that they were hired specifically to cross a picket line.
 
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Lark:

Your comments are mischaracterization of the events and that is not what ALPA or the company indicated. The 570 are widely recognized to be the key to ALPA not being broken over the "B" scale. Furthermore, the 570 are very respected at UAL and within ALPA, but how would you know?

The scabs were the fleet qualifed people who crossed the picket line and flew like Vaughn Cordle, which Bill Pollock indicated, versus the 570 who walked the picket line. Lark, don't let the facts get in the way, again...

By the way, how's that crack 25-year Vet doing? Moreover, what's it like to always be angry?

Regards,

USA320Pilot
 

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